# Hey CCP, thanks for destroying emerging conduits profits **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 16, 2020, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109 "2020-01-16T21:06:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/43 "2020-01-23T17:06:17Z")
> [@Villtora\_Aldurald](#): > > And nobody is happy about it… Correction: highsec farmer trash is not happy about losing an AFK farming opportunity. Please do not make the mistake of assuming that this means that nobody is happy. > people’s ways of making isk in high sec Here’s an idea: leave the tutorial zone and go out into the real game. Highsec should have very low profits to go along with the very low risks. You should be thankful that it is possible to make ISK at all and stop acting so entitled every time zero-risk farming doesn’t give you maximum profit. > You litteraly punish the people that put in the effort to actually play the game over people who are just too damn lazy and start botting You’re a highsec farmer. You aren’t putting effort into the game, not until you leave highsec. ---
**Author:** ![Villtora\_Aldurald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villtora_aldurald/32/470717_2.png) [@Villtora\_Aldurald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villtora_Aldurald)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/44 "2020-01-23T17:17:25Z")
Don’t make assumptions about me 😉 I’m no afk farmer and actually test fits to make it more challenging to do… Been in null and WH space for a good time in my eve carreer and its just not my cup ot tea… And maybe read… people not putting in effort are people using scripts/bots… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/45 "2020-01-23T17:19:19Z")
Why do you need a static game? Why do you need to grind isk? ---
**Author:** ![Nuero\_Faizura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nuero_faizura/32/181337_2.png) [@Nuero\_Faizura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuero_Faizura)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/46 "2020-01-23T17:21:57Z")
Cause grinding is a part of every good game ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/47 "2020-01-23T17:26:54Z")
> [@Villtora\_Aldurald](#): > > Don’t make assumptions about me I’m not. You’re telling us very clearly who you are: the kind of farmer trash that thinks that PvE of any kind in highsec is “putting in effort”. > [@Nuero\_Faizura](#): > > Cause grinding is a part of every good game You could not be more wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Villtora\_Aldurald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villtora_aldurald/32/470717_2.png) [@Villtora\_Aldurald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villtora_Aldurald)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/48 "2020-01-23T17:34:23Z")
Learn too read. Anyone not using a bot puts in effort to get somewhere in this game. But hey, just because you’re some salty nullsec carrier rat that thinks he’s a big deal cause he lives in null umbrella space doesnt give you any right to tell people how to play a game 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Nuero\_Faizura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nuero_faizura/32/181337_2.png) [@Nuero\_Faizura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nuero_Faizura)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/49 "2020-01-23T17:39:04Z")
I enjoed grinding al lot after an exhausting working day ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/50 "2020-01-23T18:14:35Z")
> [@Villtora\_Aldurald](#): > > Anyone not using a bot puts in effort to get somewhere in this game. Nope. Highsec farming is not effort. It’s mindless zero-risk, zero-effort repetition of a menial task. > doesnt give you any right to tell people how to play a game Play however you like, just don’t whine about it when you can’t get maximum ISK from zero-effort highsec farming. ---
**Author:** ![Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zirconium_solkaze/32/173693_2.png) [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zirconium_Solkaze)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/51 "2020-01-23T18:19:49Z")
People have a right to voice their opinion and let’s be real. The income gap between high sec and null sec is tremendous. Just look at the trillions mined out there. ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/52 "2020-01-23T18:30:07Z")
> [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](#): > > Just look at the trillions ~~mined~~ **botted** out there. Fixed that for you. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/53 "2020-01-23T18:33:29Z")
> [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](#): > > People have a right to voice their opinion and let’s be real. And people have a right to tell farmer trash to STFU because nothing they have to say is of any value whatsoever. > The income gap between high sec and null sec is tremendous. As it should be. Highsec has zero risk or difficulty, highsec should have near-zero rewards. Stop whining about the risk vs. reward balance and leave the tutorial zone if you want to get more money. ---
**Author:** ![Naari\_Naarian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/naari_naarian/32/173077_2.png) [@Naari\_Naarian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Naari_Naarian)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/54 "2020-01-23T18:34:44Z")
Hmm. Interesting ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/55 "2020-01-23T18:35:33Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > And people have a right to tell farmer trash to STFU because nothing they have to say is of any value whatsoever. What Merin is really trying to say here is that Merin prefers to hunt in low/null, but hasn’t been able to get a kill there in a couple years now, so please leave high sec in weak, poorly fitted ships to make it easier for Merin. It’s kinda rude of you guys to not help Merin out with easy targets, and that’s why they’re so salty about people in high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/56 "2020-01-23T18:39:16Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > so please leave high sec in weak, poorly fitted ships to make it easier for Merin. Nobody is forcing highsec farmer trash to fly weak, poorly fitted ships. Perhaps you could stop continuing the myth that everyone engaging in PvE is required to be a helpless perma-victim and nothing more than a free target for PvP players? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/57 "2020-01-23T19:17:39Z")
> [@Nuero\_Faizura](#): > > Cause grinding is a part of every good game Bollocks. ---
**Author:** ![Villtora\_Aldurald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villtora_aldurald/32/470717_2.png) [@Villtora\_Aldurald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villtora_Aldurald)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/58 "2020-01-23T20:29:30Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > > [@Zirconium\_Solkaze](#): > > > > People have a right to voice their opinion and let’s be real. > > And people have a right to tell farmer trash to STFU because nothing they have to say is of any value whatsoever. > > > The income gap between high sec and null sec is tremendous. > > As it should be. Highsec has zero risk or difficulty, highsec should have near-zero rewards. Stop whining about the risk vs. reward balance and leave the tutorial zone if you want to get more money. As it should be? Nullsec has more pvp, true… but more risk? got ganged up on? oohh wait lets ping a cap fleet in… Go bot some more Belts and moons mister elite miner xD ■■■■■■■ hilarious ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/59 "2020-01-23T20:50:12Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Nope. Highsec farming is not effort. It’s mindless zero-risk, zero-effort repetition of a menial task. Risk-free? Really?! You think this only happens in highsec? I see. Afking in nyx through havens under supercap umbrella must be REALLY risky for you, I presume? Talking about effortlessly and mindlessly repetition nullsec is no better than highsec. You even get to do it with bigger ships, which makes the already ridiculous amount of reward come even faster! If there’s anything that “affects the economy negatively”, highsec PVE definitely stays WAY behind all these nullbears that farm everything they see. ---
**Author:** ![FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fairytail_omaristos/32/145000_2.png) [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FairyTail_Omaristos)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/60 "2020-01-23T20:50:20Z")
Yeah, cool story bro. Mining in HS = zero loss. I mean, what;s the worst belt-rat even? An occasional BC or w/e. Wow. Much risk. As for the whole “lets ping a cap fleet in” nonsense, it really is just that. Nonsense. I get that everyone thinks NS is pure bots etc but then, you know, grow up. I have seen more bots in HS ice belts than I ever have in NS. Ok, not an expert but then neither are you. Maybe just calm down a bit… ---
**Author:** ![Villtora\_Aldurald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/villtora_aldurald/32/470717_2.png) [@Villtora\_Aldurald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Villtora_Aldurald)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/61 "2020-01-23T20:58:26Z")
I lived in null for a pretty long time and it rly is “lets ping a cap fleet” Besides that, ratting in carriers isnt afk ■■■■■■■■ then? Have you ever lived in sov null? ---
**Author:** ![Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiden_en_divalone/32/168600_2.png) [@Aiden\_en\_Divalone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiden_en_Divalone)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109/62 "2020-01-23T21:00:59Z")
> [@FairyTail\_Omaristos](#): > > Mining in HS = zero loss. I mean, what;s the worst belt-rat even? An occasional BC or w/e. Wow. Much risk. You clearly wander away from highsec for too long, so let me remind you something. First, we now have trig scouts that blow your barge to hell in 30 sec. 2nd, there’re those CODE fanatics that suicide-gank miners. Now let’s look at nullsec miners. Wow, mining in the center of sovblock with rorquals and 24/7 cap umbrella must be REALLY risky for ya. Hostiles? OMG they’re coming I feel so PANIC, I’ll just sit here for 5 min while some cap fleet cyno in and save my sorry ass! Right now lowsec probably has the highest risk of all regions, but who cares! Why venture into lowsec while you can farm billions effortlessly in null? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-thanks-for-destroying-emerging-conduits-profits/212109.md?page=4)