# Hey gankers: how would you take down THIS hi-sec mining team?

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**Category:** Mining & Extraction\
**Created:** [December 3, 2021, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-gankers-how-would-you-take-down-this-hi-sec-mining-team/339924 "2021-12-03T11:29:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-gankers-how-would-you-take-down-this-hi-sec-mining-team/339924/33 "2021-12-19T12:26:16Z")

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> [@CowRocket\_Void](#):
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> 4 cats for each hulk, I like over kill. If i’m bored ill bump the orca away with a mach.

Not sure if that’s possible anymore.

770dps \* 19s concord response time \* 4 = 59k EHP.

Hulks will likely have more EHP than that now, see [this thread.](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/104m3-s-61k-ehp-hulk-and-other-mining-fits/341706)

So let’s take 2 more catalysts and make it 6 catalysts per hulk. If the hulks aren’t brick-tanked, they might die.

Next, I’ve heard rumours that bumping an Orca doesn’t have much effect anymore when the Orca is using the new industrial core. I haven’t tried it myself, but I can see how it may work. I’d love someone to confirm this.

Seems it’s a lot harder to gank a mining fleet now. Especially now that Hulks can be off grid much faster with their agility and mass boost.

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