# Hey just a general reminder to new players. Null sec corps are psychopaths. Ignore the nullsec nexus filments

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**Created:** [December 10, 2023, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910 "2023-12-10T10:13:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oconostota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oconostota/32/373501_2.png) [@Oconostota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oconostota)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/41 "2023-12-10T12:07:45Z")

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Because any random joe nobody isn’t going to blue to anyone. He is going to be some guy clicking a filament and inviting his doom.

Not sure how you are missing this. I guess you are just a big fish and everybody is blue to you. But us nobodies are playing a different game.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/42 "2023-12-10T12:09:10Z")

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This thread is becoming an excellent advertisement and glowing endorsement for Freedom Consortium

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**Author:** ![Oconostota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oconostota/32/373501_2.png) [@Oconostota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oconostota)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/43 "2023-12-10T12:09:48Z")

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Cool then this community sucks as much as I thought it did.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/44 "2023-12-10T12:10:36Z")

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One of the first things you learn when you leave HS for the first time is that everyone is going to try and kill you.

I mean, even _in_ HS people will do so if you let them.

For some reason you pretend like that this is ‘a different game’ to new players. As new player I knew that when I left HS I was in danger of getting caught by other players. A few weeks in I joined a NS corporation but even _then_ I knew that anyone not blue would try to kill me.

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**Author:** ![Oconostota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oconostota/32/373501_2.png) [@Oconostota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oconostota)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/45 "2023-12-10T12:12:33Z")

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Just letting new players coming aboard during the holiday events know that there is no mercy in null sec. Not sure why you have a problem with that. I honestly dont.

I expected to get ganked and I did. Just thought it would be from a more hardened group.

Anyway, the key take away for anybody reading this thread is to stay out of null sec. Anyone saying otherwise is coming to a gate camp near you.

The null sec filaments aren’t worth anything for sale. Just right click, trash.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/46 "2023-12-10T12:16:22Z")

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> [@Oconostota](#):
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> Just letting new players coming aboard during the holiday events know that there is no mercy in null sec. Not sure why you have a problem with that. I honestly dont.

That’s a good and helpful message. Why not just say that and cut all the nonsense you say around it?

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> I expected to get ganked and I did. Just thought it would be from a more hardened group.

What exactly are you complaining about here?

‘A more hardened group’?

You made this thread to vent at null sec players because you got killed by a bunch of people in mining ships rather than have dreads dropped on you by some ‘hardened group’?

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> The null sec filaments aren’t worth anything for sale. Just right click, trash.

They’re worth it for people who want an easy trip to null sec.

You apparently did not want to take a trip to null sec, but only learned that after you lost the Endurance.

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**Author:** ![Oconostota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oconostota/32/373501_2.png) [@Oconostota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oconostota)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/47 "2023-12-10T12:18:34Z")

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> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#):
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> They’re worth it for people who want an easy trip to null sec.
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> You apparently did not want to take a trip to null sec, but only learned that after you lost the Endurance.

Weird… I don’t see a huge market for that. I guess the FAFO factor has kicked in already.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/48 "2023-12-10T12:18:56Z")

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> [@Oconostota](#):
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> HAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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> Then why am I the one out of pocket so many millions!?!?!
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> What kind of ■■■■■ ass punk piece of crap is going to be threatened by my expert AI endurance?!?!

Okay, you tried something and got nuked, and you’re bitter about it. You supposedly knew you were going to get blown up and you did. Yet you’re still bitter. You’ll say no no I expected it and I’m not upset, and then go on with posts like the above which shows just how raw you feel about it.

Just be aware that feeling burned is part of the design choice of EVE. They literally go out of their way to make sure circumstances exist where you’ll get burned. It’s up to YOU to avoid getting burned. Not Null corps. Not the game. Not CCP. YOU.

You’re trying to build a case to justify that it was someone else’s “poor behavior” here and not your own foolishness that got you nuked. But what you’re really angry about is the fact you did something foolish, knew it was foolish, did it anyway, got nuked and now want to take your frustration out on someone else.

- Nobody but you knows you’re in an Expert AI ship. For all they know you have 500 million SP.
- Freedom Consortium says “Fun GROUP. Make this your HOME.” Which means CONTACT THEM AND JOIN THEM. It doesn’t mean “Everyone is free to invade our space”.
- As @Gerard_Amatin pointed out, you weren’t the only visitor in an Endurance. Killing random potential threats is what Nullsec **does**.

This forum is a rather pointless place to “warn new players”. You’re just here to try and re-direct your anger at your own poor choice onto someone else.

EVE is about learning to make smarter choices that end up with the results you want instead of the results you don’t want. Man up, accept your responsibility, realize that other players were simply and literally doing EVE right and _you_ were doing it wrong. At least for your own goals, at any rate.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/50 "2023-12-10T12:30:08Z")

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> [@Oconostota](#):
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> What I didn’t expect was to be just straight up raped by people who seemed to try and present the front of running a friendly gaming corp.

There are two types of ‘friendly’, and you appear to confuse the two.

1. Acting friendly, like a welcoming human being.
2. Not shooting your spaceship.

Shooting spaceships is all part of this game. People are only friendly of type 2 to people who are their allies and friends.

EVE is full of friendly people who will happily shoot you and tell you how you could improve to not get shot at. This corporation was friendly like 1.

You on the other hand appear to be the opposite, very unfriendly

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> I had a nice chat with them where I rudely explained what I thought of their ancestry and sexuality.

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> But naw f that, swine like

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> mongol psycho bs

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> just straight up raped

and are somehow completely surprised and angry when PvP happens.

This is a spaceship shooting game, you’re supposed to shoot other spaceships. Why do you react in anger when your spaceship gets shot at by players who advertise that they will happily welcome anyone who is willing to join their group?

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/51 "2023-12-10T12:31:23Z")

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> [@Oconostota](#):
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> What I didn’t expect was to be just straight up raped

Losing a pixel spaceship is not even remotely comparable to rape. Go away.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/52 "2023-12-10T12:36:08Z")

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> [@Oconostota](#):
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> What I didn’t expect was to be just straight up raped by people who seemed to try and present the front of running a friendly gaming corp.

I think we’re slowly building a picture of why you get “attitude” even in help channels.

Basically you’re showing up as an entitled slow learner, who makes poor choices then blames the result of those choices on other people. You completely ignore rational good advice, patiently outlined for you, and keep exaggerating and spouting off rage about how you were mistreated and it “wasn’t your fault”.

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> These dumb filaments shouldnt even exist. Not the null sec ones anyway. They are flat out a trap.

There are multiple threads each Winter about people pulling off crazy shenanigans with Null filaments. For people who know how Null works and what sorts of things you can do there, they’re a wonderful fast surprise trip to an interesting area of the game.

You’re not someone who should be using them. You knew you weren’t someone who should be using them, yet you used them anyway. You paid the expected price and yet **still want to rage and ■■■■■ about it**. It’s Nulls fault, it’s Freedom’s fault, it’s CCP’s fault for providing people an option to choose.

You’re why coffee cups need “Warning: It’s HOT!” labels. You’re why TV dinners have instruction to place inside a 400 degree oven for 30 minutes and then remove but “CAREFUL! It’s HOT!”. You’re why children shouldn’t play with matches.

You’re essentially proving that you’re the cause of most of the “attitude” and problems you encounter.

Stop being your own worst enemy. Be your own best friend. EVE smarter.

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/53 "2023-12-10T12:36:25Z")

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Wait until he gets ganked in highsec

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**Author:** ![Oconostota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oconostota/32/373501_2.png) [@Oconostota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oconostota)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/54 "2023-12-10T12:44:26Z")

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Hi, please read and stop preaching Kezrai.

I am just trying to alert others to what happened to me. In fact all of you long time null seccers can actually leave the thread.

Using a nexus null sec filament will most likely get you murdered. Be aware. That is all.

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**Author:** ![Oconostota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oconostota/32/373501_2.png) [@Oconostota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oconostota)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/55 "2023-12-10T12:44:51Z")

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> [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](#):
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> Wait until he gets ganked in highsec

I hope you are the one ganked.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/56 "2023-12-10T12:45:33Z")

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Why is it always the „self righteous“, „I’m moral“, „pro-peace“ , or „no but really I’m OK with PvP trust me bro“ types that wind up being the most toxic, judgemental, vitriolic kind who throw out terms like „psycho“, „mongoloid“, „rapist“, etc.

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**Author:** ![Oconostota](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oconostota/32/373501_2.png) [@Oconostota](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oconostota)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/57 "2023-12-10T12:47:45Z")

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Lol wow I guess I struck a real chord here with you. I guess you must exalt in making the lives other players miserable. And now you feel called out? I guess sorry not sorry?

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**Author:** ![an675](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/an675/32/399327_2.png) [@an675](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/an675)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/58 "2023-12-10T12:48:28Z")

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There’s definitely a certain irony that between this thread and OPs other thread talking player toxicity that the most toxic behaviour is by him.

There’s roughly an endurance being lost every 5 minutes at the moment, yet we only have one person ranting about it on the forums, mind you since its not of zkill and OP clearly has an axe to grind about null-sec perhaps it never happened.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/59 "2023-12-10T12:48:39Z")

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Shooting other players isn’t making them miserable.

Your language is.

Spaceship combat is what you sign up for when you play this game.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/60 "2023-12-10T13:02:57Z")

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> [@Oconostota](#):
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> Its not meant for you

It’s not meant for anyone.

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-just-a-general-reminder-to-new-players-null-sec-corps-are-psychopaths-ignore-the-nullsec-nexus-filments/431910/61 "2023-12-10T13:08:32Z")

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> [@Oconostota](#):
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> I am just trying to alert others to what happened to me.

Yes, thanks, you’re alerting people that fire is hot, pain hurts, and shooting yourself in the foot is likely to cause an injury.

You’re one of the very few people that needs your warning. You could try posting it in Rookie Help, where it might actually do some good. But apparently you get “attitude” there. For some mysterious reason. Which, clearly, is the fault of the whole EVE community and not your own.

> [@Oconostota](#):
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> In fact all of you long time null seccers can actually leave the thread.

Once again, you feel a need to make unwise assumptions in order to justify your rants. I don’t Null-sec, because I’m not the sort of person who needs to set myself on fire to learn that fire hurts. And then complain that the matches didn’t come with a warning label. And frankly, matches shouldn’t be allowed at all, right? Because fire is so utterly dangerous it should be forbidden altogether.

Tools work well in the hands of people who know how to use them. For the invincibly ignorant, nothing can make them safe. You just have to hope the invisible hand of Darwin is still out there doing its’ job.

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