# Hi Sec Moon mining RIP. Sell your athanors before it's too late! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 27, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174 "2020-03-27T19:57:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/1 "2020-03-27T19:57:28Z")
Nice done CCP. Hi Sec mining isnt much profitable at all and you literally kill it with new update. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/2 "2020-03-27T20:00:46Z")
Risk versus reward. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/3 "2020-03-27T20:05:46Z")
Or time maybe? You need stay on it 24/7 to mine every piece of that ore. Or pay for additional accounts to mine faster. I dont see any “rewards” here. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/4 "2020-03-27T20:07:00Z")
Yeah, and kids don’t make any money attending preschool, either. ---
**Author:** ![Sordina1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sordina1/32/158264_2.png) [@Sordina1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sordina1)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/5 "2020-03-27T20:09:41Z")
> We are planning on increasing the demand for R4 moon goo through the industry (blueprint) changes. These changes don’t have a delivery date yet. ---
**Author:** ![Haulie\_Berry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/haulie_berry/32/388021_2.png) [@Haulie\_Berry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Haulie_Berry)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/6 "2020-03-27T20:18:47Z")
I’m pretty stoked about not having to read HS moon “ninjamining” whine threads anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/7 "2020-03-27T20:30:47Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > You need stay on it 24/7 to mine every piece of that ore. > Or pay for additional accounts to mine faster. You don’t need to do either, moon mining is not a solo activity; what you need is friends. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/8 "2020-03-28T09:10:17Z")
Not everyone have a bunch of friends playing eve at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/9 "2020-03-28T09:14:00Z")
Make new friends. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/10 "2020-03-28T09:20:12Z")
When there’s blood on the streets, buy property. ---
**Author:** ![Oakley\_Hunter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oakley_hunter/32/188272_2.png) [@Oakley\_Hunter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oakley_Hunter)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/11 "2020-03-28T09:52:35Z")
> **[Moon Mineral Distribution | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/article/q5jp49/moon-mineral-distribution)** > > Upcoming changes to the mineral distribution. Read. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/12 "2020-03-28T10:00:17Z")
@Mr_Raven_101 Is there anything you don’t whine about? ---
**Author:** ![Lfod\_Shi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lfod_shi/32/376240_2.png) [@Lfod\_Shi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lfod_Shi)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/13 "2020-03-28T10:57:12Z")
Which is why moon mining is not for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/14 "2020-03-28T11:21:42Z")
> [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > I’m pretty stoked about not having to read HS moon “ninjamining” whine threads anymore. Ice fields still empty in 20 minutes, orcas still get bumped, skiffs get murdered in belts by diamond rats and now Triglavion scouts as well as t1 haulers OTW to Jita. Hisec is still awesome and I’m sure you will continue to read about it. ---
**Author:** ![Mara\_Pahrdi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mara_pahrdi/32/277369_2.png) [@Mara\_Pahrdi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mara_Pahrdi)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/15 "2020-03-28T11:22:00Z")
> [@Sordina1](#): > > These changes don’t have a delivery date yet. That looks like another version of Soon™. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/16 "2020-03-28T12:11:56Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Hi Sec mining isnt much profitable at all and you literally kill it with new update. I guess it’s time to buy athanors actually. ---
**Author:** ![Roshi\_Baldington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roshi_baldington/32/194292_2.png) [@Roshi\_Baldington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roshi_Baldington)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/17 "2020-03-28T14:03:05Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Risk versus reward. Are you implying Hi Sec miners take no risk? It’s probably higher risk of ship destruction than nullblock mining. ---
**Author:** ![Roshi\_Baldington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roshi_baldington/32/194292_2.png) [@Roshi\_Baldington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roshi_Baldington)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/18 "2020-03-28T14:04:43Z")
> [@Spruillo](#): > > > [@Haulie\_Berry](#): > > > > I’m pretty stoked about not having to read HS moon “ninjamining” whine threads anymore. > > Ice fields still empty in 20 minutes, orcas still get bumped, skiffs get murdered in belts by diamond rats and now Triglavion scouts as well as t1 haulers OTW to Jita. Hisec is still awesome and I’m sure you will continue to read about it. I don’t know of a single ice field that empties in 20 minutes. Most last a couple hours. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/19 "2020-03-28T14:44:29Z")
> [@Roshi\_Baldington](#): > > Are you implying Hi Sec miners take no risk? It’s probably higher risk of ship destruction than nullblock mining. That’s just silly. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174/20 "2020-03-28T16:20:12Z")
Yeah bro. If you want to play solo, that’s your prerogative, but I don’t think CCP is in the wrong for not ensuring personal refineries remain profitable. Like other MMO devs, they design content for different players with different likes and playstyles -which includes designing content for both group and solo play. If you can make group content work solo, that’s good for you. But they aren’t going to design everything in this game for you in particular, and don’t owe you the ability to solo everything. So, I would suggest looking into (1) multiboxing, (2) making friends, (3) splitting fuel costs and mining rights with another solo player, (4) waiting for further changes, or (5) getting out of refineries altogether. Or, you could complain about it and see how far that gets you. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-moon-mining-rip-sell-your-athanors-before-its-too-late/228174.md?page=2)