# Hi-Sec NPCs that aggress indiscriminately and offer no counterplay are toxic content

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 11, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315 "2023-11-11T21:17:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/192 "2023-11-14T03:57:32Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> A lot of lore, has been left…. Hanging

Shelved is a better term tbh. Look at Edencom vs Trigs. CCP will blow the dust off the story line when it suits them.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/193 "2023-11-14T04:13:16Z")

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Logic, still not your strong suit.

You wanted the source, I gave it to you. I thought that maybe you were curious and wanted to expand your foundational understanding of the game. But all you could come up with, was an insult.

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/194 "2023-11-14T04:19:47Z")

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Things have been happening with that story line though. Amarr are rumored to be opening diplomatic ties with the Trigs. EDENCOM is coming out with more sophisticated tech tomorrow. Trigs have been seen attacking into Drifter Hives. That’s just a few things that’s been happening in the past month, doesn’t sound shelved to me.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/195 "2023-11-14T05:12:18Z")

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> [@Malak\_Starfire](#):
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> That’s just a few things that’s been happening in the past month, doesn’t sound shelved to me.

Meh I guess. The background story is indeed nice but would be even better for content I can do.

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/196 "2023-11-14T07:51:41Z")

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> [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](#):
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> Please consider a reading course in the future. If it’s legal, it’s not a bribe.

but shooting other ppl in HS is an illegal act of aggression … so you pay Concord that you can shoot other ppl and they look away … ! i would call this a … wait a second … BRIBE !  
you should consider about an “understanding course” !

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/198 "2023-11-14T11:53:31Z")

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so you disagree that shoting other ppl in HS is illegal ? and you can pay Concord that you still can shoot other ppl ?

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**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/199 "2023-11-14T12:00:39Z")

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Shooting people elicits a response from Concord. A declaration of war does not. See the difference?

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/200 "2023-11-14T12:08:47Z")

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> [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](#):
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> Shooting people elicits a response from Concord.

thats the meaning of illegal

> [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](#):
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> A declaration of war does not. See the difference?

and why not ? because you have to pay a “fee” … and who gets the “fee” ? Concord …

> [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](#):
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> See the difference?

there is no difference you just cant accept or understand that its a bribe nothing else ! you would have if you would understand the mechanic

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/201 "2023-11-14T12:37:01Z")

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> [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](#):
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> Shelved is a better term tbh. Look at Edencom vs Trigs. CCP will blow the dust off the story line when it suits them.

It sort of makes nonsense of Eve being a player ‘sandbox’ when so many of the sand castles are set up by the developers…and these then become the only incentive for anyone to do anything as the nullsec blocs have become so bloated and stagnant that only minor change ever occurs. All the ‘content’ CCP ever provide is PvE stuff…whilst PvP is left to rot.

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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/202 "2023-11-14T16:35:35Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> As in, Concord is a sketchy organization. There is a lot of lore on that. Then add in that they can be bribed to fix your security status.

Ever since my loki got doomsdayed by Tyrannos I have realized that CONCORD is serving drifters. Everyone else gets limited in various ways, but drifters are free to DD in HS. If that is not proof of at the very least affiliation with drifters, then what is?

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> It sort of makes nonsense of Eve being a player ‘sandbox’ when so many of the sand castles are set up by the developers…and these then become the only incentive for anyone to do anything as the nullsec blocs have become so bloated and stagnant that only minor change ever occurs. All the ‘content’ CCP ever provide is PvE stuff…whilst PvP is left to rot.

NS blobs are too big for any new group to upset the balance in a reasonable timeframe. You would need at least a decade long endeavor to do anything on that front.

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/203 "2023-11-14T16:52:41Z")

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So what I am gathering from this is you ignored the pop-up warning that says that the system is controlled by Triglavians?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/204 "2023-11-14T17:18:51Z")

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> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#):
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> then what is?

No argument from me. CONCORD is sketchy. And if they take bribes from capsuleers, who know what other clandestine agreements they have with known belligerents to 4 empires.

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**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/205 "2023-11-14T22:38:31Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> CONCORD is sketchy.

Don’t let facts stand in the way of your conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/206 "2023-11-14T22:55:45Z")

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CONCORD is an illegal botnet.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/207 "2023-11-14T22:58:55Z")

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I like the work of Drifters so much that I wish to one day become one.

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**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/208 "2023-11-14T23:02:41Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> an illegal botnet

Why do you **always** sound like a petulant child?

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/209 "2023-11-14T23:03:03Z")

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Why do you?

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**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/210 "2023-11-14T23:04:08Z")

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Much thought was given to that one. Good job.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/211 "2023-11-14T23:04:10Z")

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I think someone needs impudence training.

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hi-sec-npcs-that-aggress-indiscriminately-and-offer-no-counterplay-are-toxic-content/427315/212 "2023-11-14T23:04:43Z")

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Princess is under the impression of being a pretty scary pirate.

/note I had made payment for module 1 of re programming my ways.

//maybe take up that offer yourself?

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