# Hictors are too powerful and spoil my gaming time **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 27, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167 "2024-06-27T18:31:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/22 "2024-06-28T03:12:04Z")
That is not a good example of false equivalency. You started with the snidey comments, ships are buffed and nerfed all the time and often due to input from players and their experiences but mostly this convo is really boring, please dont bother replying ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/23 "2024-06-28T03:13:44Z")
lol. You talked a load of absolute ■■■■ and then suddenly came up with this dual prop scenario to mask it ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/24 "2024-06-28T03:14:12Z")
It is useful though I will try it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/25 "2024-06-28T03:15:06Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > There are plenty of options, just to name a few: > -Enlist the aid of friends to deal with it. > -Use your speed to travel out of the bubble. > -Use a shuttle to bypass. > -Use a different route. This is my very first response…using your speed includes using an afterburner. ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/26 "2024-06-28T03:15:17Z")
I lobe the ‘your’e a noob’ line though, are you 12? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/27 "2024-06-28T03:16:52Z")
“Noob” and “newbro” do not mean the same thing. Please not not put words in my mouth. I do not fault those who are ignorant, at least not until they have been given a chance to learn. I meerly assumed I was talking to someone who knew that ABs could still operate in a bubble. ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/28 "2024-06-28T03:16:54Z")
Without ever using the term dual prop ‘afterburner’ fit until your 4th post? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/29 "2024-06-28T03:17:26Z")
But I will. It’s an open forum. And bro, that’s a nice red herring you tossed out there. You’re not looking for help, what you want is a ■■■■■ fest. You should have just opened with that. And I think it’s pretty selfish thinking that only your game time matters and it’s being “spoiled” by something you don’t like. It’s very immature thinking and doesn’t facilitate a discussion. But it’s clear that’s not what you’re looking for. Anyway it’s clear your basic knowledge of pvp is piss poor at best. So here is a guide that is immensely helpful. [Novice Frigate Handbook](https://www.patreon.com/posts/eve-online-2023-92274894) ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/30 "2024-06-28T03:18:52Z")
I’ve read it mate. When did I say I didn’t like him? I’ve had a few chats with him in local, he’s a nice guy ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/31 "2024-06-28T03:20:36Z")
You didn’t. And I never said that you didn’t like him. Are you… high? Because that came out of left field. ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/32 "2024-06-28T03:20:40Z")
You mean ABs still operate when scrammed I think? Both work in a bubble ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/33 "2024-06-28T03:21:11Z")
Yes.   ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/34 "2024-06-28T03:23:31Z")
It really doesn’t matter though does it. I cant get past the gate and that means I cant really use that toon til he leaves. Spoiled, out played whatever. I just wanted a discussion about Hictors and how they work and how they can lock gates to solo players. But I didnt get that, I just got people showing off and talking crap ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/35 "2024-06-28T03:24:44Z")
I know yes, I was pointing out that he was calling others newbros and then got that wrong ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/36 "2024-06-28T03:27:53Z")
So, you’re going to throw a temper tantrum because you weren’t clear with the intention of your opening post, and somehow that’s our fault and your a victim of that? Gate camping is normal. It’s rampant in low sec choke points and null sec. Your options are to engage it. Use [EvE Gate Check](https://eve-gatecheck.space/eve/) to avoid them. Or get a scout alt. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/37 "2024-06-28T03:28:33Z")
> [@Dogwatch\_Coup](#): > > I just wanted a discussion about Hictors and how they work and how they can lock gates to solo players. But I didnt get that, I just got people showing off and talking crap And this here is where you have crossed the line into willfully ignorant and closed minded. You are unwilling to take in new information and other viewpoints. > [@Dogwatch\_Coup](#): > > It really doesn’t matter though does it. I cant get past the gate and that means I cant really use that toon til he leaves. Spoiled, out played whatever. You are only stuck because you refuse to listen to advice and then attack those who tried to have a discussion with you. FYI, there is nothing wrong with being wrong, it’s how you react to being wrong that defines the interaction and subsequent growth. Yes I misspoke earlier, it happens, we both knew what I meant though as evident by your response. ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/38 "2024-06-28T03:32:29Z")
If people would just read and then engage with the post (or not and just stay quiet) then that would be fine. I am happy to be proved wrong. But people just want to spout off showing everyone how knowledgeable they think they are. I literally said in the OP that I know when he is there already! Gate Camps are avoidable, you can fit for them or take a different route. This guy knows where I want to go and he is preventing me from going there for hours on end whilst semi-afk. If he wasn’t in a Hictor it would not have been possible. Right or wrong I was merely suggesting the possibility that that might not be a great mechanic ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/39 "2024-06-28T03:36:04Z")
> [@Dogwatch\_Coup](#): > > preventing me from going there for hours on end whilst semi-afk And? That’s when you spool up an alt and go do something else. Or you get a fleet together and take him out. Or go play something else. You have options. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/40 "2024-06-28T03:36:27Z")
> [@Dogwatch\_Coup](#): > > Gate Camps are avoidable, you can fit for them or take a different route. This guy knows where I want to go and he is preventing me from going there for hours on end whilst semi-afk. These two statements do not agree with each other. You are effectively asking for a change because you don’t want to take efforts to get past the HIC. You know the answer for how to handle it. Should we just nerf cepters because they can catch and hold a Battleship all day, even though the Battleship refused to take precautions to deal with smaller ships? ---
**Author:** ![Dogwatch\_Coup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dogwatch_coup/32/424552_2.png) [@Dogwatch\_Coup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dogwatch_Coup)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167/41 "2024-06-28T03:39:29Z")
Again, exactly what I said in my original post and exactly what I do. I doubt CCP are all that happy about people having to log off and go play something else though [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hictors-are-too-powerful-and-spoil-my-gaming-time/454167.md?page=3)