# High Sec Freight Unviable - Ganking Is Too Easy

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 11, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060 "2025-10-11T08:55:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/186 "2025-11-06T17:15:07Z")

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That account is gone. I don’t even remember the email account it was under. This account is way far beyond that one. I left this game for 12 years before coming back. All this I’ve said to you before. You have a bad memory.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/187 "2025-11-06T17:16:56Z")

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What was your character name?

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/188 "2025-11-06T17:54:43Z")

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Titania Hrothgar

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A post I made. I was very bad at the game back then. Not any help. I came better prepared this time.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/189 "2025-11-06T17:59:30Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> . I was very bad at the game back then.

You still are

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/190 "2025-11-06T17:59:49Z")

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Then why are you so afraid of me? I don’t know what I’m doing and all my ships are trash. All of my skills are level one. I don’t even know how to Omega…

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/191 "2025-11-06T18:03:25Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Then why are you so afraid of me

Because you are a **bully**

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/192 "2025-11-06T18:21:41Z")

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So stop trolling me and my fits.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/193 "2025-11-06T18:29:32Z")

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Can’t help it … your fits suck

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/194 "2025-11-06T18:48:30Z")

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Yeah but at least I have ships. How’s that station you’ve been locked up in?

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/195 "2025-11-06T22:28:05Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> How’s that station you’ve been locked up in?

He’s won EVE…..as the station is invincible and nobody can attack him 🙂

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/196 "2025-11-06T23:14:06Z")

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\*fang

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**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/197 "2025-11-19T08:22:57Z")

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Haha, I guess we hit the “Can and Should” issue, just because you can it doesn’t mean you should.

I’m now a mature gamer and I’m wondering why people even bother to fly freighters across high sec solo.

Having another look at freight ganking my opinion is that it is only the fault of the owner of the freighter if it gets ganked. My reasoning is that a Freighter is actually part of a fleet and should never ever be flown solo under any circumstance. Just because you can fly a freighter solo it does not mean that you should.

You’re better off hiring Black/Red frog which I view as a kind of insurance, I can get 50 Billion isk worth of goods delivered to my location for around 2 Billion isk. If I try to haul it myself it will be time consuming and i would most likely lose it all, so the 2 Bil isk insurance cost is good. Let the professionals within this game do their Job and support them as best you can by using their services.

The Frogs have obviously found a way to get things delivered without complaining or asking for any game mechanic changes since they seem very successful.

So yes, freighter ganking is easy only because freighter pilots make it that way. I hope you can see that when using specific methods to haul it won’t matter how many accounts some ganker has. Perhaps we need to give our money to professional hauliers instead of annoying ganksters.

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**Author:** ![Etlaef\_Urlur\_Artrald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etlaef_urlur_artrald/32/482516_2.png) [@Etlaef\_Urlur\_Artrald](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etlaef_Urlur_Artrald)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/198 "2025-12-02T09:44:18Z")

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> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#):
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> Looking at the kills it looks like that Hawk is using the good old “permabump” strategy. Just with the caveat that he needs to warp disrupts the freighter once every 4 minutes to prevent the freighter from warping away.

I lost my freighter to this the other day and I can say for sure it wasn’t a permabump strategy. All those pilots were already red and It looked like a log-off trap to me - from my perspective it went like this:

1. no reds in HS local when I initiated warp on the LS side
2. 2-3 reds in HS local when I landed on the gate in LS
3. 1 red on the gate _after_ I initiated warp on the HS side

I’m not used to multiboxing and frequently screw up the webbing. In this case I forgot to warp the webber down from the perch so I took around ~4s to web the freighter after initiating warp and that was way too slow. Sadly, I wasn’t recording but I can at least point at something I can improve…

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**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/199 "2025-12-02T10:25:56Z")

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High sec is only for billionarire multiboxers

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**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/200 "2025-12-02T15:30:19Z")

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> [@Lissa\_Kalissa](#):
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> Don’t load your freighter like loot piñata

### Don’t gank people in HS.

I’m simply applying your logic to you…

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/201 "2025-12-02T15:33:56Z")

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Use a tougher freighter. If your armor and shield skills are lacking, get them to level 5

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/202 "2025-12-02T15:40:56Z")

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> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#):
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> Don’t gank people in HS.

Don’t do PvP in a PvP game ? Are you familiar with a place called Earth ? Can you please try visiting sometime.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/203 "2025-12-02T15:48:56Z")

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> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#):
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> ### Don’t gank people in HS.
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> I’m simply applying your logic to you…

You seem to have a poor grasp of logic, thats not how it works.

Perhaphs @Glenduil can teach you, and then you can teach him.

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/204 "2025-12-02T15:58:49Z")

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> [@Adada\_Tuesday](#):
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> billionarire multiboxers

Bah. You can be an EVE billionaire for as little as £8.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/205 "2025-12-02T16:03:24Z")

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Which you can give to Zaera to make her a billionaire

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