# High Sec Freight Unviable - Ganking Is Too Easy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 11, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060 "2025-10-11T08:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/305 "2025-12-11T21:37:49Z")
If you were actively serving in the U.S. Navy, the four personalities that you identify as, based on your characters in-game bio, would been the reason why you were discharged. I am certain that you are rotating your personalities based on the characters that are part of your bio. Glenduil is known as The Smuggler, The Joker, The Wanderer, and The Criminal There are no such things as being known for someone you are not when serving in the U.S. Navy. If you want to be in the U.S. Navy, go sign up and serve in the U.S. Navy. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/306 "2025-12-11T22:03:28Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Glenduil is known as The Smuggler, The Joker, The Wanderer, and The Criminal My dad was in the navy and my grandad was in the army. Personally I doubt our warhero was though as in the navy, due to his personality he would most likely be thrown overboard and used for target practice , but there is nothing wrong with him roleplaying in a game. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/307 "2025-12-11T22:16:57Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > If you want to be in the U.S. Navy, go sign up and serve in the U.S. Navy. Dooing a quick google search , and seeing that he spent 5 years training to be a programmer, he had better hurry if he wants to be a Navy Seal as the age limit is 28 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/308 "2025-12-11T22:33:29Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > I think Akio will be able to help you understand the mechanics of anti-ganking I am currently teaching antigank lessons, my current rate is 1 billion isk per hour, a fair price for a lifetime of antiganking with the best. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/309 "2025-12-11T23:11:59Z")
Navy Seals are trained gankers, their weapon of choice is the drone. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/310 "2025-12-12T01:01:32Z")
When someone claims to be U.S. military that is illegal. Its called Stolen Valor. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/311 "2025-12-12T01:04:09Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > illegal In the US though, so as the forum software plus database and CCP as a company operates outside of it it might not be the case, depending on international treaties and whatnot. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/312 "2025-12-12T01:36:08Z")
@Glenduil Are you a shellback or a plank owner? Just curious. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/313 "2025-12-12T02:35:54Z")
Nope, if someone is pretending to be a U.S. service member outside of the U.S. that is grounds for investigation in actually spying and collecting data for a foreign threat force. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/314 "2025-12-12T05:32:26Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > if Still only US law unless international treaties make it a crime in other nations. Of course the US can enforce it outside their borders but that doesn’t mean it is not a breach of international law unless as mentioned there is a treaty that permits such. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Misty\_Dreamscape](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/misty_dreamscape/32/483092_2.png) [@Misty\_Dreamscape](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Misty_Dreamscape)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/315 "2025-12-12T07:35:40Z")
It’s understandable to feel frustrated when freighter losses seem effortless, but the mechanic is working exactly as intended: high-sec has rules, not guarantees, and those who choose not to engage in the cycle of risk, awareness, and deterrence inevitably become targets for those who do. The penalties for ganking are calibrated to create consequences without removing the danger that gives New Eden its character, and multiboxed strikes—while dramatic—still rely on the victim presenting an unprotected opportunity. Freighters can operate safely in high-sec, but doing so has always depended on preparation, escorts, scouting, and not assuming immunity. The system isn’t being abused—it’s simply being used by players who embrace the harsher side of the sandbox. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/316 "2025-12-12T09:33:06Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > if someone is pretending to be a U.S. service member Our Warhero seems to have a need to prove himself and a big chip on his shoulder. Boasting about being in the navy to justify his game expertise seems odd , as does savagly attacking anyone who questions his service. His claim to have 3 degress also seems doubtful considering his contempt for those with higher education and taking 5 years to become a programmer. His Ad Hominum attacks cast further doubts on his claims. ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/317 "2025-12-12T09:52:30Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > I am guessing Fleet Admiral Lol….let’s shut up all the Navy braggers… I have on my wall a letter from Eisenhower, which I inherited….its a commendation for helping to plan the entire logistics of 7000 ships on D-Day. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/318 "2025-12-13T05:27:20Z")
Has any ganker tried using breacher pods against freighters and Orcas and otherwise undefeatable ships? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/319 "2025-12-13T05:29:36Z")
Dryson, for a ‘scientist’, you don’t do much research. ---
**Author:** ![Nyel\_Blazon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nyel_blazon/32/457597_2.png) [@Nyel\_Blazon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nyel_Blazon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/320 "2025-12-13T08:14:12Z")
According to studies, prayer has a negative effect to the prayee. ---
**Author:** ![Done25](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/done25/32/494511_2.png) [@Done25](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Done25)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/321 "2025-12-13T11:52:00Z")
Yes, that’s why CCP had to nerf breachers just recently. ---
**Author:** ![Aaron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaron/32/379788_2.png) [@Aaron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaron)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/322 "2025-12-13T19:21:03Z")
> [@Misty\_Dreamscape](#): > > still rely on the victim presenting an unprotected opportunity This is the key part of all this in my opinion, there will always be a steady stream of pilots who don’t talk to anyone or read anything, they buy freighters and pack it to the brim and fly through hi-sec. The thing is freight pilots could well survive an attack with an escort which includes Logi, The only time you will ever see me in a freighter is when I am part of such a fleet, otherwise it’s never going to happen. What we have to understand is that Eve will make these ships available no problem, it’s up to the pilot to investigate what they are getting into. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/323 "2025-12-13T20:09:12Z")
How are breachers nerfed? Does anyone have the new maths? How many Cenotaphs required for a freighter after the change and where is the new break even point? I mean, i can wait for zkillboard giving me the new indication, but maybe some sane values are known already. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/324 "2025-12-13T20:11:26Z")
I think they had a high-damage cap of 1.000 DPS for 75seconds before and are now reduced to 750 DPS for 60seconds. So from 75.000 total raw HP on a target (given maximum application) down to 45.000 raw hit points. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=16)