# High Sec Freight Unviable - Ganking Is Too Easy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 11, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060 "2025-10-11T08:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/21 "2025-10-11T14:56:30Z")
Here is one: [https://zkillboard.com/kill/129291907/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/129291907/) Cargofit and 10km away from gate…go figure… ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/22 "2025-10-11T15:07:44Z")
Yeah I remember this one. He ejected the cargo in middle on some safespot. So 2 months ago first empty freighter that wasn’t even empty when he was scanned. Totally a proof that empty freighters are ganked repeatedly with no effort. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa\_Kalissa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lissa_kalissa/32/479052_2.png) [@Lissa\_Kalissa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lissa_Kalissa)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/23 "2025-10-11T15:14:53Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > and trust me 😛 at some point you want to fly a freighter ( not a hauler the real one ) If you say so then it may be. I will have to learn fly it properly first. > [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > and dont get stuck at lazyness ! there are all informations in this forum or all around the WWW you need ! or find a good corp and then you also have a good source of informations, but still veryfie these informations xD Thank you and it’s true, plenty of info to find online. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/24 "2025-10-11T15:32:34Z")
> [@Lissa\_Kalissa](#): > > My personal solution is not fly freighters and hire haulers if I need to move lots of stuff. I don’t even think I will fly Cruisers and definitely no Battleship. Small ships are best and loss of it is negligible, affordable and they are more agile for Low-Sec. Jump Freighters are really the solution if you know how to operate one. Of course, LS–\>HS direction you still need to do DST or BR. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/25 "2025-10-11T16:09:33Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Totally a proof that empty freighters are ganked repeatedly with no effort. Seriously? Just a quick research on zkillboard…have not even looked at jumpfreighters and low cargo below 500m isk… > **[Obelisk | Ignatio Delgado | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/127887454/)** > > Ignatio Delgado (Arcadia Industrial Defense) lost their Obelisk in Aufay (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by BillyMays ButWait YeeeKaboom (In Search of The Marauders Map) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 2,184,400,688.94 ISK > **[Fenrir | Darth Natasha | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/130414911/)** > > Darth Natasha (WormHoleius Evivtus Taxicus Evadinus) lost their Fenrir in Maurasi (The Forge). Final Blow by Lianan03 (History of the Moon) flying in a Cenotaph. Total Value: 2,197,772,659.25 ISK > **[Fenrir | Eowoadia | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/128916003/)** > > Eowoadia (B-17) lost their Fenrir in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by zLegion O (L.E.G.I.O.N) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 2,492,300,350.31 ISK > **[Fenrir | Captain Sleeze | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/128067296/)** > > Captain Sleeze (Miners Trade Company) lost their Fenrir in Aufay (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by Flesh Arrow (The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 2,008,244,762.90 ISK > **[Charon | Ilasin Tokra | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/129130213/)** > > Ilasin Tokra (Imperial Trading LTD) lost their Charon in Aufay (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by CareBears Stronk Together (In Search of The Marauders Map) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 1,974,457,924.42 ISK > **[Charon | Dedritte Thiesant | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/129098997/)** > > Dedritte Thiesant (Center for Advanced Studies) lost their Charon in Aufay (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by CareBears Stronk Together (In Search of The Marauders Map) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 1,994,905,333.31 ISK > **[Providence | Callista Harrison | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/127372593/)** > > Callista Harrison (Ronin Interstellar Industries) lost their Providence in Litiura (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Comp Aivoras (Totoro Time) flying in a Purifier. Total Value: 2,206,009,592.06 ISK > **[Providence | Firelight7118 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/127312767/)** > > Firelight7118 (ETBL Industries) lost their Providence in Aufay (Sinq Laison). Final Blow by IhavethePower Of GodAndAnime (In Search of The Marauders Map) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 2,204,774,702.90 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Sere\_O\_Asis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sere_o_asis/32/374997_2.png) [@Sere\_O\_Asis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sere_O_Asis)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/26 "2025-10-11T18:54:42Z")
I’m reading through the thread, so this may be addressed later on; but, @Aely_Andedare do you know how many freighters dock safely each day in Highsec in New Eden? I know I read threads on this topic, and this month with the event, this comes up (freighter ganking); but exactly what percentage of freighters fail to dock safely due to ganking in Highsec? Is it like a high percentage of freighters travelling that fail to dock safely? Does anyone outside of CCP know how many freighters dock safely in Highsec? I mean I see them dock all the time when I’m at a trade hub. Perhaps Red Frog, or Push might have some insight? To me, at least, it doesn’t seem to be a high percentage. ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/27 "2025-10-11T19:25:10Z")
> [@Sere\_O\_Asis](#): > > what percentage of freighters fail to dock safely due to ganking in Highsec? Is it like a high percentage of freighters travelling that fail to dock safely? > > Does anyone outside of CCP know how many freighters dock safely in Highsec? There’s no official data on this, but on a regular day it’s definitely a small minority that end up being ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Aely\_Andedare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aely_andedare/32/476290_2.png) [@Aely\_Andedare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aely_Andedare)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/28 "2025-10-11T20:44:35Z")
There is no real consequence for ganking freighters in high sec. This is abject truth. Gankers do it while multiboxing 30+ accounts. The problem is the use of programs which allow them to control multiple accounts simultaneously with a push of a button which if I am not mistaken, is the epitome of what the eve community and CCP itself disagrees with. The proof is in the pudding: freighters are ganked easily with no repercussion all regardless of what they are carrying if anything. The links are in this thread showing just that. This is truth and it cannot be ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/29 "2025-10-11T20:51:36Z")
If you refer to my zkillboard links then no, you have drawn the wrong conclusion. The fault lies clearly with the freighter pilots. I had just to present those links for the unbelieving that empty freighters are ganked as well. I have written above: “Well this is undeniable. You can find them from time to time on zkillboard. But i still suspect them to be on autopilot, with an all cargo fitting, without a webber, without a scout, without knowledge of ganking hotspots, without knowledge of gankers online or not, without a general knowledge of game mechanics, with a quick triggerfinger for a forum whine thread and therefore fully justified. Bored gankers hit also lazy targets. Perfectly fine.” Also again “easily” is relative. I have also in another popular running thread about the same topic: “Just like about the mechanics to defend, you have no real clue about what is all mechanically involved in ganking. Like the gankers don’t magically respawn in their ships, you know? Also for profit you need to scout ships. You have to acquire, transport and sell off loot. You have to acquire and provide new ships. “Press F1” is only a fraction of the work involved.” ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/30 "2025-10-11T20:55:09Z")
> [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > There is no real consequence for ganking freighters in high sec. This is abject truth. Gankers do it while multiboxing 30+ accounts. The problem is the use of programs which allow them to control multiple accounts simultaneously with a push of a button which if I am not mistaken, is the epitome of what the eve community and CCP itself disagrees with. The proof is in the pudding: freighters are ganked easily with no repercussion all regardless of what they are carrying if anything. The links are in this thread showing just that. This is truth and it cannot be ignored. Wrong. The consequence of attacking a freighter in high sec is losing your ship. (unless it is a suspect of course, hohoho). I’ve been participating in a few freighter attacks. Tragically, it takes a bit more than one button push to take out freighters. For one, you just need manpower. The average eve player does not field 30 accounts. Then you need to ferry over your ships that you attack with to a place where freighters pass by, so usually these are established routes like Uedama and so on. Blowing up a freighter is fun, and for some this is already more than enough motivation to go, even if it doesn’t carry any cargo. Still, you are looking at a significant investment to crack these, that you are GUARANTEED to lose no matter what. If you throw some bulkheads at your freighter, you will reach an EHP of roughly 500k. That’s kind of a lot, especially if you have only 20 seconds to work with before concord kills you. So NO, it’s not that easy!! You can’t just login one day and say “hahaha my cata make 500k freighter go boom today hahah hahaha!!!” OK? OK? IT’S A BIT MORE DIFFICULT THAN THAT. With educational regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/31 "2025-10-11T20:58:13Z")
> [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > Gankers do it while multiboxing 30+ accounts And you think those 30 accounts are free or what? I bet you think they are ganking with alpha accounts, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/32 "2025-10-11T21:03:48Z")
So, think of it this way. I am a miner, and I like mining, and I also like building things. But you see the only way to increase my profits in building ships, like say freighters, is to increase my mining operations, increase my market share of sales… or do something “interesting”. “Interesting” in manufacturing means MAKING your own opportunities. If I want to mine, build and sell freighters, I can start ganking them in order to make my own demand. Welcome to my “Eve Economic Theory” TED Talk.😈 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/33 "2025-10-11T21:07:53Z")
Train into dst’s maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/34 "2025-10-11T21:58:58Z")
> [@Eternus8lux8lucis](#): > > “Interesting” in manufacturing means MAKING your own opportunities. If I want to mine, build and sell freighters, I can start ganking them in order to make my own demand. > > Welcome to my “Eve Economic Theory” TED Talk.😈 Come on…the whiners in this thread make it clear that they don’t want to see or get knowledge of the bigger picture…mechanics are irrelevant…time and effort of ganks are irrelevant…ship fittings, afk autopiloting and intel is irrelevant…and so certainly economy is irrelevant to them… All it boils down to is about how easy it is - for everyone and their cat - to press that F1 key. And i can confirm that pressing that F1 key is rather easy. It even works when EVE is not running. So the fix would be to remove the F1 key from the keyboards? ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/35 "2025-10-12T01:19:31Z")
> [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > The problem is the use of programs which allow them to control multiple accounts simultaneously with a push of a button which if I am not mistaken, you are wrong ! these programms are banned and you get a perma bann if you use them ! so …. you dont know and predict something because you have a “feeling” > [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > he proof is in the pudding: freighters are ganked easily with no repercussion all regardless of what they are carrying if anything. easy ? again … you have absolutley no clue what kind of skill you need … > [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > The links are in this thread showing just that. they are just a few kills of all the hundrets and thousends freighters they move through highsec every day …. so a few kills prove even youre wrong xD > [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > This is truth and it cannot be ignored. this is only YOUR truth 😉 sounds like youre a little Trumpi ? xD ---
**Author:** ![Aely\_Andedare](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aely_andedare/32/476290_2.png) [@Aely\_Andedare](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aely_Andedare)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/36 "2025-10-12T05:09:30Z")
It seems like there’s a mix of opinions here and ultimately, things are out of balance. Using programs to control multiple accounts with a single click is an issue and is being used by gankers. Another issue is the lack of consequence which is also apparent in the kills and scale on which high sec ganking is done. There are no repercussions for doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/37 "2025-10-12T08:20:45Z")
> [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > Using programs to control multiple accounts with a single click is an issue and **is being used by gankers.** Is it? What makes you think that? > [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > Another issue is the lack of consequence which is also apparent in the kills and scale on which high sec ganking is done. There are no repercussions for doing it. I’m pretty sure the consequence to illegal attacks in HS is that CONCORD destroys your ship and that you lose security status for doing so. This requires logistics to bring new ships to the gank locations and raises the costs of ganks so that destroying cheap ships of new players isn’t profitable. I’m no ganker and only occasionally haul in HS, but those seem pretty good consequences to me. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/38 "2025-10-12T09:40:10Z")
> [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > It is far too easy to gank freighters Easier than an ibis ? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/e/7/3e7d992db994e4787d96941b93f55a7df0a4beba.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/39 "2025-10-12T11:55:06Z")
you´re still repeating the same “feelings” without any facts to prove your point …. and you´re still 100% wrong in everything you say ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/40 "2025-10-12T14:20:59Z")
You tell em Aely! Don’t let those griefers get away with it!!! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=3)