# High Sec Freight Unviable - Ganking Is Too Easy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 11, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060 "2025-10-11T08:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/406 "2025-12-22T02:26:59Z")
Oh Im certain there are people who read the forums. You are poor and never carry anything worth the gank anyway, so that you yourself escape doesn’t really matter. Rather sad that you have to gank people to get rich. Ganking is a poor gamers excuse. Gotta have a lot cash right now, you dont want to wait and do something constructive. High Sec gankimg is like I said, a poor gamers excuse. Back in the day, your type of poor wouldnt have lasted long due to all of the Mercs placing war decs on anyone in High Sec with a corporation. Like I said, High Sec Ganking is a poor gamers excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/407 "2025-12-22T02:28:35Z")
How’s that whining about ganking coming? 🤣 Exactly what point were you trying to make here? You going full Biden on us again today? ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/408 "2025-12-22T02:31:53Z")
Most freighter pilots need a scout, a webber, and a brain to pass through highsec with 100% safety. Dryson needs billions of isk worth of escort ships to still whine and cry about it. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/409 "2025-12-22T02:51:00Z")
Still whining about whining scissoring? High Sec gankers are poor gamers due to the change in war dec mechanics. Like I said, High Sec gankers are poor gamers due to the mentality of doing things easy without little toil. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/410 "2025-12-22T02:52:12Z")
Literally talking to yourself… ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 3:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/411 "2025-12-22T03:08:09Z")
I’m not the one who is literally talking to himself, unlike you are Aiko? Where’s the “Replied to Arrow” at? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/412 "2025-12-22T03:09:22Z")
Honestly, what’s wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/413 "2025-12-22T03:44:05Z")
![Screenshot 2025-12-21 204223](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/8/04873e499e2d193ac02f686af773b882ad414c04.png) DrysonBennington replying to DrysonBennington LOL ---
**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/414 "2025-12-22T04:33:41Z")
I’ve no idea what you’re talking about…and even worse, I suspect you haven’t either. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/415 "2025-12-22T13:08:11Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Still whining about whining scissoring? Also, I don’t whine about your silly little idea. You occasionally like to mislead people into possibly thinking you have the faintest clue what you’re talking about here, and I bring that glorious idea you had out to let them know who they’re talking to. You don’t want newbies to get the wrong impression now, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/416 "2025-12-22T14:36:03Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Ganking is a poor gamers excuse. Actually gankers are very noble , we take from the rich to give to the poor (ourselves) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/417 "2025-12-24T00:44:29Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > we take from the rich to give to the poor (ourselves) Give us back the ability to WD null again and I think we will find our problem with gankers mostly, (there will always be some) solved. ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/418 "2026-01-09T20:56:56Z")
I agree with OP it’s too easy mechanics need reworked, People just un-sub there are too many games to play, Been the #1 complaint in forums since launch. The gaming community has grown intolerant of griefing. Ganking is fine but needs to be much harder requirements, more planning, have much higher penalty’s so targets are picked accordingly. As it is it’s 90% Grieving 10% ganking ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/419 "2026-01-09T21:32:20Z")
If ganking is fine, why does it need to be a lot harder? That doesn’t make sense. And if it’s not griefing, just get ganked and get better. Learn from it and move on. It’s possible to not get ganked (gate camps are still a problem, but even they can be avoided or even limited to super rare occasions and they can even be survived). This is a PvP game. It’s going to happen, but you’re not going to be ganked every single day unless you do everything wrong with a sign on your ship that reads “Kick me”. You only lose a ship when you make mistakes. ![1000006773](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/0/d/10df303fd1fecaeb5554ccdd2a131df8991ca90a.jpeg) Listen to MegaMind. Learn from your mistakes and your deaths become teachable moments that make you stronger. ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/420 "2026-01-09T21:54:16Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > If ganking is fine, why does it need to be a lot harder? That doesn’t make sense. > > And if it’s not griefing, just get ganked and get better. Learn from it and move on. It’s possible to not get ganked (gate camps are still a problem, but even they can be avoided or even limited to super rare occasions and they can even be survived). > > This is a PvP game. It’s going to happen, but you’re not going to be ganked every single day unless you do everything wrong with a sign on your ship that reads “Kick me”. > > You only lose a ship when you make mistakes. This is typical dishonest blathering toxic griefer copy and paste response “git gud bruh” you don’t even know the difference between ganking and griefing > [@Glenduil](#): > > If ganking is fine, why does it need to be a lot harder? That doesn’t make sense. To cut back on griefing so gankers will be focused on high value targets, better logistics and planning., not free for all drive as many new players from the game as possible. > [@Glenduil](#): > > And if it’s not griefing, just get ganked and get better. Learn from it and move on. It’s possible to not get ganked You’re being dishonest again, a new player in basic mining ship is griefing,.. and it is not impossible to not get ganked > [@Glenduil](#): > > This is a PvP game. It’s going to happen, but you’re not going to be ganked every single day unless you do everything wrong with a sign on your ship that reads “Kick me”. > > You only lose a ship when you make mistakes. again not true PVP games have evolved, for example is WOW the griefing was out of control and the devs saw this and instanced it (im not suggesting this) just pointing out games need to evolve this isnt rust. Dune Awakening died in 90 days from griefing and so would have EVE if it launched right now, back then they were the only MMO in existence and for 10 years less than 5 competitors. EVE has 20-35k players that is BAD very bad this game should be 150k easy if they address griefing ,. this game is too awesome to only 20k players and its from griefing. It’s been the #1 complaint in forums since launch. No body is saying eliminate it.. it needs to be reworked .. everyone i know IRL that played eve quit from griefing, ive seen entire corps quit.. it’s bad EVE’s player base is 50-70 year olds… not many new players are joining because of the terrible griefing reputation .. the player base is aging out, it needs to attract younger players ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/421 "2026-01-09T22:02:37Z")
> [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](#): > > devs saw this and instanced it They ruined WoW. IF you play WoW, it is dead except for Classic WoW were you can GANK to your hearts content Reatail WoW is dead thanks to the carebears like yourself getting their way. ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/422 "2026-01-09T22:10:15Z")
One thing I’m not is a liar. Ever. I’m wrong a lot, but I’m never a liar. ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tommy_fourfingers/32/389168_2.png) [@Tommy\_Fourfingers](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tommy_Fourfingers)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/423 "2026-01-09T22:18:35Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > They ruined WoW. > > IF you play WoW, it is dead except for Classic WoW were you can GANK to your hearts content > > Reatail WoW is dead thanks to the carebears like yourself getting their way. that is not what killed wow and you know stop being dishonest, PVP took off with The battlefields and arenas. Lots of other things killed wow but not removing griefing ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/424 "2026-01-10T01:44:24Z")
The Trammel server killed Ultima. No one played the regular servers when you could be safe from PvP and have free mats in the Trammel server. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2026, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/425 "2026-01-10T03:09:17Z")
Bro, when you accuse Glenduil of being the griefer, you’ve really jumped the shark. It’s time to admit you are just bad at the game, whining and crying endlessly, and you just don’t know what you are even talking about. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=21)