# High Sec Freight Unviable - Ganking Is Too Easy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 11, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060 "2025-10-11T08:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/61 "2025-10-14T16:59:26Z")
Nothing stopping them making their own content, oh wait …….they did. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/62 "2025-10-14T18:34:48Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > There’s a room in CCP headquarters where they manufacture a replica model of each mining ship that gets ganked, containing miniature figures for the crew and capsuleer, and they even include little inventory items (like cotton balls for gas and grains of sand for ore) and then they take this model and bash it with a hammer until it’s reduced to plastic splinters which they throw into a volcano. That, more than anything, demonstrates their attitude toward ganking. It’s true! CCP is even ganking themselves by doing this, because this is the only reason why the volcano on Iceland keeps exploding all the time! For the uninitiated who think “how is a miniature spaceship going to explode a volcano? lol! rofl!” here is your reality check, you’re welcome: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/2/1/b212b85256cf1404f8bd9783c8d1a96e598cbfc5.jpeg "Eruption after person throw stone in lava lake of volcano") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEglwzVW56Y) With erupting regards -James Fuchs ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/63 "2025-10-14T19:40:36Z")
> [@Tarax](#): > > CCP implemented a mechanism for Concord that allows you to Pull them away from a gate That mechanic can be used for both, offense and defense. And it works everywhere in the system, not just on gates. It baffles me that people are hauling 10b+ in freighters through Uedama pipe and do _not_ do this! That would be the first thing I would do if I needed to take my freighter through there. Also works in situations other than hauling as well. ---
**Author:** ![andrei\_haiducul](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrei_haiducul/32/420104_2.png) [@andrei\_haiducul](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/andrei_haiducul)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/64 "2025-10-14T20:27:01Z")
> [@Meridan\_Night](#): > > That mechanic can be used for both, offense and defense. And it works everywhere in the system, not just on gates. How does this work exactly? Does one pull decrease the response time for one ganker or for all of them on the same grid? Gankers need to pull multiple times to be effective and if you have to do the same defensively then the cost in alts isn’t worth it for the vast majority of the player base. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/65 "2025-10-14T20:49:11Z")
> [@James\_Fuchs](#): > > here is your reality check Yes this is true, but that was not a stone, it was a body. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDisk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flyingdisk/32/473076_2.png) [@FlyingDisk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FlyingDisk)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/66 "2025-10-14T22:01:16Z")
If you use an alt with a throw-away Corvette to pre-spawn Concord on the gate, then their response time is much faster, since they’re already there and only need to lock. When you see gankers pull them to other places, it’s to get them off the grid of where they want to gank to get the maximum response time until they lose their ships. Pulling them off the grid does not increase the normal response time; instead, it ensures the response time is not shortened. ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/67 "2025-10-15T01:23:20Z")
Yet to pull enough Concord ships that would require many alts to do so when a freighter gank is in place, more so if you are using catalysts versus say Talos’ or Oracles. Pulling for single gankers sure but again it takes more accounts and if youre already spending more on accounts theres a plethora of options available that are much easier. ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDisk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flyingdisk/32/473076_2.png) [@FlyingDisk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FlyingDisk)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/68 "2025-10-15T08:20:02Z")
Dafuq is this word salad supposed to mean? Do you even know how Concord works? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/69 "2025-10-15T12:19:23Z")
> [@Aely\_Andedare](#): > > If freighters can’t operate in high sec no matter how little they are carrying then it might be time to revisit a mechanic that is being abused. Red Frog and PushX would beg to differ – their entire business model revolves around operating freighters all over Eve, including in high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![Gealbhan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gealbhan/32/452651_2.png) [@Gealbhan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gealbhan)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/70 "2025-10-15T15:22:42Z")
If… IF… I ever do move anything & it’s small enough to fit in the cargo I’ll use an inty. I like the stiletto. I wouldn’t port anything over 100mil. Time I’ve got and multiple trips wouldn’t bother me. 99.99% of the time I’m just sitting in station playing the market so never any real reason to haul anything. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/71 "2025-10-15T16:00:47Z")
Are you sure you’re not taking too much risk there? Flying with 100 million ISK in an interceptor? I wish I had the balls to live that dangerously. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/72 "2025-10-15T16:22:08Z")
Intys are totally safe. Perfect for small valuable cargo. ![evil-smirk](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/1/c714cb8bcc756043e8d8d3ddb6148ef065ed3fbc.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Apo\_Bong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_bong/32/512751_2.png) [@Apo\_Bong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Bong)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/73 "2025-10-15T18:22:38Z")
Gateguns 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDisk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flyingdisk/32/473076_2.png) [@FlyingDisk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FlyingDisk)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/74 "2025-10-15T19:01:15Z")
You can tank gate guns, you can’t tank Concord. ---
**Author:** ![Eternus8lux8lucis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eternus8lux8lucis/32/385152_2.png) [@Eternus8lux8lucis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eternus8lux8lucis)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/75 "2025-10-15T19:07:17Z")
You do realize that every ship you use in a gank needs its own concord response right? Which is why to pull 5 gankers worth of ships away and reset them you need 5 alts to pull, 10 gankers needed you need 10 alts to pull, etc, etc. But hey what do I know? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Shaigh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shaigh/32/430164_2.png) [@Shaigh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shaigh)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/76 "2025-10-15T19:11:36Z")
It’s all deliberate and by design to force players into corps… Ganking advantages, ship nerfing, component nerfing, and their game manipulations have all been geared around it… This game would have been much better off without it, IMO… ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Redwolfe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/baron_redwolfe/32/474918_2.png) [@Baron\_Redwolfe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Baron_Redwolfe)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/77 "2025-10-15T19:12:31Z")
Loosing a 3M ship with alts that are only there to die, yeah.. it’s actually very easy to gank now with no real detriment or punishment for such actions. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/78 "2025-10-15T19:18:07Z")
> [@Baron\_Redwolfe](#): > > Loosing a 3M ship with alts that are only there to die, yeah.. i ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/8/e/18ee6583474988972ecbebb9f5f6a48d2cdf3936.jpeg) # How much? ---
**Author:** ![FlyingDisk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flyingdisk/32/473076_2.png) [@FlyingDisk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/FlyingDisk)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/79 "2025-10-15T19:22:52Z")
It’s also stupidly easy not to get ganked in the first place. But, you know, effort and all that. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/80 "2025-10-15T19:46:13Z")
> [@Shaigh](#): > > It’s all deliberate and by design to force players into corps… Ganking advantages, ship nerfing, component nerfing, and their game manipulations have all been geared around it… This game would have been much better off without it, IMO… PvP and it’s effect that players have a better chance in a group makes EVE one of the most social MMOs I know. I think it’s doing a great job at making EVE a good game. Maybe try joining a group yourself? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060.md?page=5)