# High Sec Freight Unviable - Ganking Is Too Easy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 11, 2025, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060 "2025-10-11T08:55:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/142 "2025-10-20T13:08:02Z")
Always take precutions with you such as a valid mining permit. In addition to a valid mining permit , freighter pilots require a platimum pass ![rude tongue](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/a/d/6ad5ed9d76df5d9d52f88269a896a724a7d36778.jpeg) Upon being suicide ganked, a freighter pilot should congratulate their gankers on their success. A “Praise Aiko!” or “PA” in local is customary. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/143 "2025-10-20T23:31:39Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > freighter pilots require a platimum pass I. Like. This. Idea! I don’t need one but still like the idea. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/144 "2025-10-21T00:25:20Z")
> [@andrei\_haiducul](#): > > You’re missing the point, perhaps intentionally. The killmail can’t show it but it’s entirely possible that the 34 people called `Nado Hawk` logged in after tackle or came from another system. Logoff traps are tried and tested in all areas of space. Yes it is possible but very unlikely. More likely his gank toons were criminal when the freighter pilot jumped in. Which was a smart move from the pilot (if it was intentional), however Hawk has the setup do do **this** and outsmarted him. Also the freighter wasn’t tacked the usual way you imagine. Freighter was bumped for close to 4 minutes when the neutral alt was used to warp disrupt the freighter so the bumping could continue. And then again ~4 minutes later. When the actual gank started he was tackled by the Oracle/Talos/Maller as usual. And this wouldn’t be possible if the freighter pilot used webbing alt or had another players’ help for that. That is all you need to actually “escort”. ---
**Author:** ![Srima\_Darkstar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/srima_darkstar/32/374461_2.png) [@Srima\_Darkstar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Srima_Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 2:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/145 "2025-10-21T02:48:26Z")
> [@Simulacrum\_Accolyte](#): > > Why do you all fly faction hauler and freighters and then complain about getting your ships destroyed and your cargo stolen? I didn’t. I think you either misunderstood my post in the thread or you are replying to the wrong person. Have a nice day 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lissa\_Kalissa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lissa_kalissa/32/479052_2.png) [@Lissa\_Kalissa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lissa_Kalissa)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/146 "2025-10-21T09:14:07Z")
> [@Simulacrum\_Accolyte](#): > > Why do you all fly faction hauler and freighters and then complain about getting your ships destroyed and your cargo stolen? I haven’t yet undocked in a faction hauler or freighter so it stands to reason that I haven’t complained about my ship destroyed and my cargo stolen. > [@Simulacrum\_Accolyte](#): > > That’s like walking down a scary alley by yourself at night with no protection and complaining about getting mugged Not quite. I think it’s more like walking the green mile. ---
**Author:** ![Kai\_Mordan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kai_mordan/32/477268_2.png) [@Kai\_Mordan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kai_Mordan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/147 "2025-10-21T18:05:59Z")
Gankers are one of the things that give this game excitement. They work hard for what they do, they educate those how to play the game better, they are a significant meta game and Eve would be much worse off without them. How boring would it be to auto pilot everywhere with no repercussions…no…much better that you have to be on your guard, you have to check the for recent kills, strategize, attempt, feel that adrenaline, sometimes lose and learn more, but sometimes win, to much happiness. Good on them, thanks for making the game a bit more fun! ---
**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/456813_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/148 "2025-10-24T13:58:02Z")
> [@Kai\_Mordan](#): > > excitement. I mistakenly read this as “excrement”.".. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/149 "2025-10-25T09:18:37Z")
Keep your mind out of the gutter - thanks ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chad_frostpacker/32/504356_2.png) [@Chad\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chad_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/150 "2025-10-25T09:23:06Z")
Such an sassy response ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/151 "2025-11-05T17:29:38Z")
If high sec gets safer, its average ISK/hour will drop, pushing more players to low and null 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/152 "2025-11-05T18:14:52Z")
High sec is safe. ---
**Author:** ![Lissa\_Kalissa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lissa_kalissa/32/479052_2.png) [@Lissa\_Kalissa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lissa_Kalissa)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/153 "2025-11-05T18:30:30Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > High sec is safe. He wants it safer than safe. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/154 "2025-11-05T19:02:52Z")
Nice fairy tale. Did your mother tell that to you before sleep when you were child? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/155 "2025-11-05T19:07:10Z")
> [@Glenduil](#): > > High sec is safe ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/b/6/bb64940ca70663e3d2e9723a174fdfb5b9611eb0.png) What happened here sweetie? ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/156 "2025-11-05T19:08:50Z")
I challenged him to one on one combat. We fought, he won, and we had a great chat afterwards. He told me what I did wrong so I could learn. It was fun. I had that ship replaced in 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/157 "2025-11-05T19:41:45Z")
People who say concord space is safe dont do anything except mwd+cloak around ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/158 "2025-11-05T19:51:28Z")
Not true. I do way more. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/159 "2025-11-05T19:51:57Z")
Like what ---
**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/160 "2025-11-05T19:53:58Z")
Abyssals, mining (moons, ice, and asteroids), combat missions, travel, freight running (with and without cloaks)… I’ve never been successfully ganked. ---
**Author:** ![Adada\_Tuesday](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adada_tuesday/32/478186_2.png) [@Adada\_Tuesday](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adada_Tuesday)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-freight-unviable-ganking-is-too-easy/499060/161 "2025-11-05T19:57:02Z")
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