# High Sec / game play /CCP

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [December 15, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308 "2024-12-15T21:00:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/41 "2024-12-16T02:29:31Z")

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I don’t mind the Frostpackers and Epeens. I don’t have to agree with them and even Blue had a good idea that CCP had already implemented, but then dropped.

Any half-baked idea that can be adapted is a good idea.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 4:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/51 "2024-12-16T04:57:21Z")

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> [@Rich\_Killson](#):
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> 1.High sec should be a place for safe travel for everyone unless you have a war going on .

Why are you crying about something that has existed in this game since the start? CCP has done nerfs to ganking that have benefitted Haulers, and yet you come here and cry about it.

All you have done is proven that no matter how many chances CCP gives you, you will always just end up AFK at the gate, die, and cry about it. You can lead a Hauler to water but you cant make him drink to save his life from dehydration.

Incase anyone is wondering, here is the killmail in question:

> **[Providence | Alex Killson | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/123245486/)**
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> Alex Killson (u.k militia forces) lost their Providence in Poinen (The Forge). Final Blow by Dra Autopsia (Paulo Coelho Industries S.A.) flying in a Talos. Total Value: 9,226,704,578.64 ISK

Maybe you shouldve swapped out those expnaded cargoholds for bulkheads. Did you even need the extra space?

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/52 "2024-12-16T05:02:33Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> Did you even need the extra space?

No… no he did not

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/53 "2024-12-16T05:32:44Z")

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> [@Rich\_Killson](#):
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> 1.High sec should be a place for safe travel for everyone unless you have a war going on .

Highsec must be pretty safe already given that you haven’t lost a ship in it since 2013 !

Why’s it taken you 11 years to decide to whine about it ?

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**Author:** ![Gloria\_Exercitus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gloria_exercitus/32/509735_2.png) [@Gloria\_Exercitus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gloria_Exercitus)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/54 "2024-12-16T05:49:05Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> id rather give my 14bil assets to mike

You can give them to me, then I’d have a nice round 50 billion.

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**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/55 "2024-12-16T06:05:12Z")

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> [@Rich\_Killson](#):
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> 2.Freighters should have some sort of defense on them if other players are able to attack them in high sec .

> **[Avalanche | Jabutica Jenkins | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/122906993/)**
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> Jabutica Jenkins (ETBL Industries) lost their Avalanche in Uttindar (Metropolis). Final Blow by Provoked Hawk (Clipped Wingz) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 3,819,603,493.11 ISK

> **[Avalanche | Max Lonewolf | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/121882010/)**
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> Max Lonewolf (Menagerie of Fools) lost their Avalanche in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Bambi Bunny (The Conference Elite) flying in a Catalyst. Total Value: 3,816,891,648.31 ISK

This is a useless argument

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/64 "2024-12-16T17:37:40Z")

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/65 "2024-12-16T17:42:19Z")

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moved to #Player Features & Ideas

removed several off topic posts

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/66 "2024-12-16T17:42:22Z")

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/67 "2024-12-16T20:02:45Z")

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> [@Dyver\_Phycad](#):
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> This is a useless argument

Even if we introduce a PANIC module for freighters that make them invulnerable for 5 minutes in hisec, people will still complain that they were AFK autopilotting in hisec and died, and that CCP keeps making the game worse for haulers with every update.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/68 "2024-12-16T21:06:45Z")

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> [@Solonius\_Rex](#):
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> a PANIC module for freighters that make them invulnerable for 5 minutes in hisec

Gankers then should have a button they press whereby freighters explode as they come through the gate for 5 minutes

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/69 "2024-12-16T21:56:11Z")

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Lol not to mention they wouldn’t even help. If these people had friends to show up in 5 minutes they would just have one of those friends in a web alt

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**Author:** ![0ptimus\_Swine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0ptimus_swine/32/385816_2.png) [@0ptimus\_Swine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0ptimus_Swine)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/70 "2024-12-16T23:06:46Z")

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I most definitely did quit eve.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/71 "2024-12-17T00:38:51Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Gankers then should have a button they press whereby freighters explode as they come through the gate for 5 minute

Nah, they should have a button they press whereby freighters nearby lose all their cargo straight into the nearest station that the ganker has access too, and the ganker can then ransom the stuff back to the freighter pilot. Thats even more entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/72 "2024-12-17T00:40:52Z")

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> [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](#):
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> Lol not to mention they wouldn’t even help. If these people had friends to show up in 5 minutes they would just have one of those friends in a web alt

Yup. You can have an anti-ganking channel with 1000 players in it, if everyone is afk autopiloting their ships then your 1000 friends are pretty useless.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/73 "2024-12-17T00:55:40Z")

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That reminds me of lowsec, selling the loot back to your prey.

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/74 "2024-12-17T03:22:45Z")

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I just checked. I have 37,220,294,973 in assets and isk. Thats not including what I lost which can found by looking me up. Never mind my wife’s acct which of course my wallet. 🙄 3rd toon just pumps its isk into the others.

I have simple rules to play by which I call “The 3 Hards.”  
Think hard.  
Play hard.  
Fight hard.

Am I doing something wrong anyone?

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**Author:** ![Aloy\_Jumpila](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aloy_jumpila/32/502999_2.png) [@Aloy\_Jumpila](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aloy_Jumpila)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/75 "2024-12-17T03:23:28Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> I just checked. I have 37,220,294,973 in assets and isk. Thats not including what I lost which can found by looking me up. Never mind my wife’s acct which of course my wallet. 🙄 3rd toon just pumps its isk into the others.

Uhmm… I take donations 😃

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**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/76 "2024-12-17T03:39:04Z")

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Prove to me your worth the investment. I have giving away billions on the forums to new players who could show their worth. Some payed off, others didn’t. I paid one for having the balls to call me out on an empty threat! 🤣

Show you have some competence, and I will gladly donate.

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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-game-play-ccp/471308/77 "2024-12-17T03:57:53Z")

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> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#):
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> I have simple rules to play by which I call “The 3 Hards.”  
> Think hard.  
> Play hard.  
> Fight hard.

Better than the 3 hards of the OP.

Suck Hard.  
Die Hard.  
Cry Hard.

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