# High Sec Gankers - Luxurious Targets Await **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [January 14, 2023, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743 "2023-01-14T01:09:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 6:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/21 "2023-02-06T06:43:40Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > loose our ships Your ships are too short? šŸ¤” šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/22 "2023-02-06T08:36:27Z")
Itā€™s funny how RIOT are camping targets at the gate just like we camped gankers, one of there members even said camping in your crappy slashers how pathetic, and now they are doing the same. šŸ¤”šŸ¤­ ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/23 "2023-02-06T12:04:06Z")
Not really the same. They do not rely for NPCs to kill their target. They kill it themselves without NPCs help. Opposed to you, -NEPF, who are using super cheap Slashers with 0 dps with only single purpose - to stop warp of an outlaw player ship and then watch how NPCs kill it while you claim the kill mail and often dying in the process along with the criminal. The difference is that if NPCs didnā€™t help you, you would be unable to get that kill. And that is why many are mocking your methods. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/24 "2023-02-06T12:18:43Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/6/1/061566350dbaf37c9101fcc335da27995ab65d42.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/25 "2023-02-06T21:10:35Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > They do not rely for NPCs to kill their target. They kill it themselves without NPCs help Same for us Iā€™m talking about our kill right hunting , sometimes faction police would help, but if we was fast they did little damage > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Opposed to you, -NEPF, who are using super cheap Slashers with 0 dps The RIOT slasher was the same fit as ours, they are tacklers, other dps ships made the kill. I did get the facts before writing here you know, unlike some. But the point was not the killing technique but the hypocrisy around what group does what. > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > And that is why many are mocking your methods. Only one group mocks us, your no better than salty miners if not worse. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/26 "2023-02-06T21:58:05Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > But the point was not the killing technique but the hypocrisy around what group does what. Itā€™s just part of the banter of the game and community. Donā€™t take it seriously. If I peeled apples and you peeled apples, then Iā€™d be doing it like a God and youā€™d be doing it like a scrub. Itā€™s the way of the World. I (anyone, not me personally) v You (anyone else, not you personally) am always better. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/27 "2023-02-06T22:03:39Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Itā€™s just part of the banter of the game and community. Donā€™t take it seriously. Oh I know, i enjoy banter, Iā€™m having fun, i did wonder who would take the bait and l wasnā€™t surprised ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/28 "2023-02-06T23:38:06Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > your no better than salty miners if not worse ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/b/7/1b7d6370717ede77c556738b0b5ac8f9be6fabd6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/29 "2023-02-07T00:16:32Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Only one group mocks us, your no better than salty miners if not worse. I was speaking globally based on informations provided in this thread and on my knowledge of ganking groups as I am member of one. Personally I do not have a problem with your doctrine nor strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/30 "2023-02-07T06:33:13Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > crappy slashers No crap, they slap! TD Slashers are very nice, as are the dual reppers. Donā€™t you dare tarnish the name of the must underrated combat-specialized frigate in FW. Death to Slicers. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/31 "2023-02-07T07:35:11Z")
> [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](#): > > No crap, they slap Oh i know, they are the best T1 tackler, they are cheap and alpha friendly. We train our new players on them or people new to pvp, in fact one of our training exercises is to fly un armed slashers into low sec looking for pirates, the aim is to warp in tackle and get out and nothing else. I was surprised how much fun that was. obviously if you are a slave to your kill board it might not be for you ---
**Author:** ![Yendor\_Kashada2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yendor_kashada2/32/375746_2.png) [@Yendor\_Kashada2](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yendor_Kashada2)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/32 "2023-02-17T16:22:32Z")
Interesting. Which specific pirates interest you? I have a list of them I have been keep watch on for the last year or so. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/33 "2023-02-18T01:49:15Z")
> [@Yendor\_Kashada2](#): > > Which specific pirates interest you? Any new groups really, like the group of abyssal killers called something about ponytails, now i wonder whoā€™s ponytail they referred to. We are going to get a lot of these short lived groups pop up two ive seen close to jita ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/34 "2023-02-18T08:12:24Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > i wonder whoā€™s ponytail they referred to. Thats a hard one ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/e/1/0e1571ad1dc241b2cef1e335644d8f64860f66d2.jpeg) Now Githany , bow down before your Princess. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/35 "2023-02-18T09:18:08Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > one of there members even said camping in your crappy slashers how pathetic, and now they are doing the same. > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Not really the same. > > They do not rely on NPCs to kill their target. They kill it themselves without NPCs help. Come on Githany, stop hitting the bong and try to think. ---
**Author:** ![BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black-flag-will-kill-you/32/356214_2.png) [@BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/36 "2023-02-18T21:06:29Z")
First of all, I expect BF to jump in this post and try to be salty. So please do so. It will only mean Iā€™ve got your attention. Second. This post is intended to raise the awareness regarding Black Flag gankers especially in Jita. This post will not be about moaning, but simply to instill awareness. For all the alliances/corps **that are or will** be in war with BF, you need to know the following: If you fly anything bigger than a cheap cruiser IN or OUT of Jita 4-4, you will lose it in a few seconds. If you like to admit it or not, Hisec mercs are doing more isk damage in or around 4-4, than the majority of null sec alliances COMBINED ! Their strategy is quite simple. Neutral eyes everywhere around Jita, because that system is the honey hive. BF has non-stop neutral eyes on 4-4 and on all the gates around it. They are keeping the station clear, so players will think itā€™s safe to leave 4-4 in some big expensive ship. They are staying off-grid. That means, if you are using an alt to scout ahead, if wonā€™t help much. If they are on local, they are waiting for you to land on gate and intercept you immediately after you jump, thinking that the gate is clear ! They are extremely well organized and do not think that mounting stabs will help you. They have all the counter ships needed to catch any war target. So remember, if you are part of an alliance or corp that is in war with BF, if you think you will leave or enter jita in a big ships without getting owned, then you will fail at this game. [BLACKFLAG. | Alliance | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010015/). Have a look on their kb to check their activity before going into high sec from null. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/37 "2023-02-18T21:23:26Z")
Tell me you lost a ship to Blackflag without telling me you lost a ship to Blackflag. ---
**Author:** ![BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black-flag-will-kill-you/32/356214_2.png) [@BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/38 "2023-02-18T21:25:14Z")
Actually I never lost a ship to them because I was never in war with. I actually appreciate their style. Iā€™m just doing this for the lulz. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/39 "2023-02-18T21:25:52Z")
> [@BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU](#): > > Iā€™m just doing this for the lulz. Sure you are. Everyone knows wardeccers camp trade hubs. Itā€™s been a standard practice since before Jita was even a trade hub. Posting like captain obvious isnā€™t ā€œfor the lulzā€. ---
**Author:** ![BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black-flag-will-kill-you/32/356214_2.png) [@BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BLACK-FLAG-WILL-KILL-YOU)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743/40 "2023-02-18T21:32:44Z")
Considering their 10+bil isk in kills daily around Jita, apparently your are one of the few ā€˜ā€˜captain obviousā€™ā€™. Welcome aboard. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-gankers-luxurious-targets-await/391743.md?page=3)