# High Sec Isk per Hour **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 22, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376 "2019-07-22T19:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/202 "2019-07-23T19:54:12Z")
> [@Alistair\_Atreides](#): > > You’re 14 jumps from a trade hub? Do you add 30min to whatever “isk per hour” you think you’re getting? That is what courier contracts are for… ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/203 "2019-07-23T20:01:01Z")
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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/204 "2019-07-23T20:12:33Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > Don’t you need a structure for moon mining? Can you use a buddy’s structure? You can use anyone’s structure for mining - as long as the moon is fractured. You won’t have any control or real knowledge as to when it is going to fracture but the option is there. Ninja moon mining it is called. Many don’t like it but I don’t understand it - there is so much ore in one even very short moon drill cycle that most of them are not strip mined. Just the other day some people mined 600K m3 of spod from my moon… do I complain? No. I wouldn’t be able to strip mine it anyway (and got half of it anyway, and no I don’t do it for iskies, I do it cause I can 😛 ) ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/205 "2019-07-23T20:21:57Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Many don’t like it but I don’t understand it - there is so much ore in one even very short moon drill cycle that most of them are not strip mined. Just the other day some people mined 600K m3 of spod from my moon… do I complain? No. I wouldn’t be able to strip mine it anyway (and got half of it anyway, and no I don’t do it for iskies, I do it cause I can 😛 ) I dunno man there’s so much wrong in that idea. You hit me up in game yet? Letting others mine your stuff just means less isk for you ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/206 "2019-07-23T20:24:14Z")
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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/207 "2019-07-23T20:25:34Z")
> [@Alistair\_Atreides](#): > > Letting others mine your stuff just means less isk for you That assumes I would mine it in the first place - and I wouldn’t. I got half of the ore from the moon and that was it. I didn’t want to mine more so if someone else gets it is no issue for me – in fact it helps me as they increase supply on the market which drives prices of ores down which in turn increases profits from my industry. ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/208 "2019-07-23T20:26:15Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > in fact it helps me as they increase supply on the market which drives prices of ores down which in turn increases profits from my industry. Somewhat true. I’ve thought of that with Pi ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/209 "2019-07-23T20:27:14Z")
possibly, but usually you will just see someone crying over your vent mining his belt. If he is that bothered by whatever you gonna mine with your vent maybe he should consider having enough miners to mine the belt so fast that almost no one can go in and mine anything. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/210 "2019-07-23T20:28:45Z")
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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/211 "2019-07-23T20:30:11Z")
You don’t get suspect timer so he would have to suicide gank you - at least in hisec. And if you wanna make any kind of bigger iskies you gotta take some risk. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/212 "2019-07-23T20:32:54Z")
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**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/213 "2019-07-23T20:38:44Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > Please stop trolling. Or maybe think about how you run missions: ![Capture](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/4/44ee50d2c1587d93856b83dc673b8f55972c3bfa.png) ~30 minutes to clear - including salvage, and has about 80M in loot and 9M in salvage. Total isk/h, including travel times - about 170M (if I get two in row, which with this social booster is the case) EDIT: Was a bit hasty to write, 16minutes to complete, 38M in loot. No salvaging in this one - but number is in similar ballpark. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/214 "2019-07-23T20:39:00Z")
If you do it in hisec there’s no flags involved, if the “owner” of a belt takes a pot shot at you for mining “their” belt, they’ll be on the receiving end of Concord’s big stick. ---
**Author:** ![M\_Cincinnatus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/m_cincinnatus/32/258279_2.png) [@M\_Cincinnatus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/M_Cincinnatus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/215 "2019-07-23T20:49:35Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > > [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > > > And if you wanna make any kind of bigger iskies you gotta take some risk. > > Yes. I understand. > Thank you for the suggestion though. I’ll think about it if ever I feel suicidal 🙂 You show as having been part of the community for about 5 months. Back in 2007 when I first started, at 5 months I was already in a battleship running lv4’s, and I had a couple hours per day to game casually in EVE. I even had a fleet of ships from frigates to battlecruisers, as I always kept my old ship+fits in case I lost my current ship. I had even lost a couple of BC’s to low sec PvP by then as well. But all part of “flying what you can afford to lose”. I am only mentioning this cause it shows the importance of optimizing and streamlining a main income stream, that way you earn enough isk to have enough assets so that you can go out there and take some risks and have some fun. Basically the whole point of EVE. 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/216 "2019-07-23T21:03:22Z")
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/217 "2019-07-23T21:04:44Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > one could only moon-mine in Low or Null. Up until fairly recently that was the case. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/218 "2019-07-23T21:08:11Z")
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/219 "2019-07-23T21:13:19Z")
> [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](#): > > Do you consider it an improvement for EVE I’m indifferent, it doesn’t bother me either way. Some see it as an improvement, others see it as a detriment. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/220 "2019-07-24T01:21:12Z")
I mean welcome to eve isk making, npc killing is pretty much the same everywhere. Personally I prefer burners as you can use smaller faster warping ships and you can use a variety of ships, but it still gets boring after a while as there’s only so many. Also half the time looking at the fitting puzzle is more fun than actually running the content. ---
**Author:** ![Ellison\_Onizuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ellison_onizuka/32/314780_2.png) [@Ellison\_Onizuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ellison_Onizuka)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/221 "2019-07-24T01:54:55Z")
I see people talking about the nice loot from combat sites (I assume DED) and how much they can make per hour because of how easy they are to run, but how hard are they to find? If you can run it in 10 minutes and you get 300 mil in loot that sounds great but if you can only find one site in three hours it isn’t as great. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376.md?page=12)