# High Sec Isk per Hour **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 22, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376 "2019-07-22T19:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/263 "2019-07-24T22:41:26Z")
raven is bad blitzer. Your argument is invalid. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/264 "2019-07-25T06:47:29Z")
Sorry I dont think you read my statement. There is no argument there ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/265 "2019-07-25T08:01:08Z")
> **[Your Argument Is Invalid](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/your-argument-is-invalid)** > > "Your Argument is Invalid" is a popular catchphrase often used as a playful counter-response in online discussions. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/266 "2019-07-25T08:03:30Z")
I know what your saying, and I get it. Im just saying that all the “must have” ships for optimisation are hideous at worst and dull at best. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/267 "2019-07-25T08:34:37Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I know what your saying, and I get it. Actually, I’m not saying anything. “your argument is invalid” is a meme, that is not something serious. In this one specific case, I happened to link it to a “lookalike” serious argument ; yet this argument is not, as the “beauty” of the ships is in the eye of the beholder. So I’m not saying anything, just jumping on the “my personal opinion of beauty is the only one relevant” troll train. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/268 "2019-07-25T09:03:03Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > “your argument is invalid” is a meme Yes thats what I am saying I get. Raven isnt an uggo tho ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/269 "2019-07-25T09:50:56Z")
Lol, there are 7 hidden replies above! Must be tough! ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/270 "2019-07-25T13:00:32Z")
^^ When you’re so insecure in your own beliefs that you have to tell everybody that you’re not listening to people with differing beliefs, or acknowledging that a belief different to your own even exists. Someone should be in politics. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/271 "2019-07-26T00:08:28Z")
> [@Natocha\_Daisy](#): > > Lol, there are 7 hidden replies above! > > Must be tough! They are probably content with the lack of silly replies. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/272 "2019-07-26T01:05:16Z")
I have been trying to run DED sites only but since they are hit or miss I am only up to 19-20M per hour. ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/273 "2019-07-26T01:26:54Z")
> [@Janus\_Gregorian](#): > > A couple of years ago I clocked myself over a whole month, all time devoted to doing combat sites the moving back and forth everything included, and then offset that by total profits for that month. Turns out that I ended up making 92 mil/h Nice awesome work on averaging it out that long ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/274 "2019-07-26T19:10:50Z")
> [@Ash\_Beldrulf](#): > > High Sec Isk per Hour Incursions - 100 million isk per hour. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_Beldrulf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ash_beldrulf/32/473706_2.png) [@Ash\_Beldrulf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ash_Beldrulf)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/275 "2019-07-26T19:13:07Z")
I don’t have the skills to run incursion, I was close but the mark got moved again. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Tahl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_tahl/32/377209_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Tahl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Tahl)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/276 "2019-07-26T20:16:05Z")
Been playing for 2 hours today, got Pithum B-type Invuln and stuff from 5/10 (HS den escalation). Tooltip shows 800mil. Thats 400 mil/h. ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/277 "2019-07-26T23:52:49Z")
> [@Siegfried\_Tahl](#): > > Thats 400 mil/h. Is that something repeatable or did you hit a jackpot? ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/278 "2019-07-28T11:19:15Z")
> [@Alistair\_Atreides](#): > > Is that something repeatable or did you hit a jackpot? Jackpot. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/279 "2019-07-28T11:46:53Z")
Not really. It’s actually a mix of the two. I knew someone who was constantly doing 1B isk/h in HS doing exploration.(edit : I may have mistaken the exact value, so maybe it’s lower than 1B… memory 😕 ) I trust him on this because he told me where and how to do it, and I actually reached close to that value under his orders. Been a long time I had no news though, maybe this is no more possible. My point is that it depends on the knowledge you have of the game. Knowledge that is not public so you have to find it by yourself. At the same time when I was doing it by myself I was making 100M/h, on average. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/280 "2019-07-28T12:04:12Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Been a long time I had no news though, maybe this is no more possible. If anything it may be more likely due to the price increase in ded modules… > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Knowledge that is not public so you have to find it by yourself. Even if knowledge is public (and most likely it is) it means nothing - after all knowledge about missions is public yet people apparently make less isk running l3/l4 missions than I did running l2s in procurer. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/281 "2019-07-28T12:12:24Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > Even if knowledge is public (and most likely it is) it means nothing no it is not. I’ve seen many people claim false things, eg DMC , with so much strength that the ■■■■■■■■ they spread is believed to be true now. Example of BS that is spread so much that it is taught to newbros now : - loot table of an NPC is constant over time - the peak recharge of shield/capacitor is 33% (it is actually 25% and you have more recharge at 19% than at 33%) - you can’t make over 50M isk/hour in HS - salvaging is worth it - you can’t give faction standing to an alt (that’s DMC) - SOE has the best lp store. It’s like people have a specific goal to propagate false informations about Eve. No wonder the game is dying. The thing is, many internal mechanisms are hidden and people assume them to be a specific case without a rigorous verification. The biggest issue is IMO with the people who can’t accept they don’t know. - “I don’t know of a method to do X, so X is not possible”. No, you don’t know of a method of X, so X may be possible, or not. - “I don’t know of the reason for X but that one explanation Y , therefor Y is the sole possible explanation”. No, maybe Y is an explanation, and maybe not. This total arrogance is the cancer of those forums. ---
**Author:** ![Natashalynn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natashalynn/32/142458_2.png) [@Natashalynn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natashalynn)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376/282 "2019-07-28T12:26:01Z")
The clever see through it and grow. This is one of the things about EvE that i like alot. The different ways others can scam, misdirect, sabotage & betray in all its different forms. Doing things on your own and/or growing with others learning the game is what its about. your right though as many will get frustrated and leave. Not sure about the younger generation that likes everything handed to them. hopefully, the clever will find their way here to eve. Personally, i dont focus one one activity to make isk. Some do PI, trade, or other activities for passive income while exlploring, mining or piracy to complement the income. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-isk-per-hour/177376.md?page=15)