# High sec lvl4 mission ship advice

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657>\
**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [May 11, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657 "2018-05-11T11:42:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Andres\_lniesta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andres_lniesta/32/72863_2.png) [@Andres\_lniesta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andres_lniesta)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/21 "2018-05-15T16:14:19Z")

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Indeed, or that guy is trolling or doesn’t have a clue, evepraisal shows listing priced in jita now  
4.01 Billion estimated sell value 3.31 Billion estimated buy value… gank magnet indeed.

My current Golem cost at today’s market price 2.21 Billion.

Anyway, in the end of the day in my opinion, a Marauder always will attract gankers attention, even if they don’t make any “profit” at all from killing it.

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**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/22 "2018-05-15T19:42:13Z")

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I’m pretty sure my barghest fit costs less than the kronos hull alone. you really don’t need to go full deadspace mids.

Okay sure, this fit is pretty specialized, but you could pretty easily swap the rigs to application and swap the guidance comps for a bit more tank or cap if you want, and/or go with the old school 6 mids raven fit. And should probably use a few faction BCUs but that’s a pretty minor detail. Then maybe a faction 500mn MWD for the lower cap penalty.

[Barghest, blitzhest]

Missile Guidance Enhancer II  
Signal Amplifier II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Ballistic Control System II

Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Large Micro Jump Drive  
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive  
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script  
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script

Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
[Empty High slot]  
[Empty High slot]

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II  
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II  
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Hornet II x5  
Hobgoblin II x5  
Acolyte II x5

Nova Fury Cruise Missile x805  
Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x1349  
Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile x1501  
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Cruise Missile x1800  
Missile Range Script x2

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/23 "2018-05-15T19:46:06Z")

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I guess my point was I can run a T2 Marauder fit for less than half the cost of this blinged Barghest fit, and probably complete missions in less time (since I have a higher warp speed and prop mod). There’s also the salvaging bonus.

Which isn’t to say the fit is bad. It just seems guaranteed to attract the wrong kind of attention at some point in the not too distant future.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/24 "2018-05-23T21:15:32Z")

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[Raven, Rayven]  
Ballistic Control System II  
Damage Control II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Ballistic Control System II  
Signal Amplifier II

Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Cap Recharger II  
Shield Boost Amplifier II  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Cap Recharger II  
Target Painter II

Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Cruise Missile Launcher II  
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II  
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I  
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Hammerhead II x6

This is currently what I use for L4’s.  
Offense is 1061.8 DPS (using T2 cruise)  
Def is 46,329 EHP

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**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/25 "2018-05-24T15:18:17Z")

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Depends on your skills/play-style.

If you like to brawl and have great tank skills then Yes, Rattlesnake.

If you prefer more passive play then a sentry Domi can be almost as efficient speed-wise and for hundreds of millions less. Land at 100km out, drop warden II’s, blap blap blap… when they start hitting you MJD out another 100km. rinse and repeat. Cheap, effective, consistent.

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**Author:** ![lilrchronos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilrchronos/32/172420_2.png) [@lilrchronos](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilrchronos)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/26 "2018-07-07T17:50:40Z")

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Would you be willing to share this fit?

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/27 "2018-07-07T20:33:00Z")

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> [@lilrchronos](#):
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> Would you be willing to share this fit?

Since he hasn’t posted anything yet, this is the Kronos I use for running missions:

[Kronos, Kronos, missions]  
Damage Control II  
Large Armor Repairer II  
Reactive Armor Hardener  
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II  
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II  
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II  
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

500MN Microwarpdrive II  
Heavy Stasis Grappler II  
Tracking Computer II  
Cap Recharger II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II  
Neutron Blaster Cannon II  
Neutron Blaster Cannon II  
Neutron Blaster Cannon II  
Heavy Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu  
Heavy Knave Scoped Energy Nosferatu  
Small Tractor Beam II  
Bastion Module I

Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II  
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Hobgoblin II x5  
Hammerhead II x5  
Garde II x2

Void L x10000  
Tracking Speed Script x1  
Null L x10000  
Optimal Range Script x1

I don’t always go into Bastion Mode, but occasionally “run wild” by NOSing other battleships, holding them down with the Grappler and killing them with Void L up close and personal at about 1500 DPS (before implants).

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**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/28 "2018-07-08T00:17:47Z")

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I’ve temporarily switched to a Leshak for missions.

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**Author:** ![Magnus\_Witchspace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magnus_witchspace/32/410729_2.png) [@Magnus\_Witchspace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magnus_Witchspace)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/29 "2018-07-11T02:17:17Z")

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I love my Golem. That is all.

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/30 "2018-08-27T05:12:31Z")

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@Arthur_Aihaken, after some weeks, how does the Leshak feel? Is it worth it?

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**Author:** ![Azmodea](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azmodea/32/92724_2.png) [@Azmodea](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azmodea)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/31 "2018-08-27T07:39:01Z")

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My Gila runs level 4’s in high sec no problems at all.

[Gila, Gila LvL 4’s]

Damage Control II  
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier  
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II  
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender  
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender

Drone Link Augmentor I  
‘Pickaxe’ Rapid Light Missile Launcher  
‘Pickaxe’ Rapid Light Missile Launcher  
‘Pickaxe’ Rapid Light Missile Launcher  
‘Pickaxe’ Rapid Light Missile Launcher

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II  
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

Infiltrator II x5  
Vespa II x5

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**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/32 "2018-08-31T19:56:02Z")

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Another option is the Amarr Arma.

I’ve been using this for ages. Armament wise you can use anything due to 5/5 turret/launcher setup, and it’s drone capacity is right up there, you can use 2x geckos or 5 heavy/sentry drones due to its 125mb/s bandwidth.

Personally if have it armour tanked, armed with 5 rapid heavy launchers and 2 drone links, carry a mix of drones as you can with the drone capacity (currently have 5 light, 5 med, 5 heavy, 5 sentry and a mix of ECM and salvage drones. Did used to use 2 geckos with an tp900, but found augmented heavy drones did more damage and we’re faster, but does require you to have high drone skills unlike the geckos.

I’ve solo lvl storyline missions with this ship, and never gone below 50% armour hp.

The cool thing is with this ship is the ability to use any weapon system, it even had instead of the links mounted 2 turrets for antifrigate use.

Should add fit has a huge cargo capacity for ammo and mission loot.

Point is there are always other options.

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**Author:** ![Saori\_Ishida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saori_ishida/32/107392_2.png) [@Saori\_Ishida](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saori_Ishida)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/33 "2018-11-19T16:06:23Z")

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Could you list the fit?

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**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/34 "2018-11-20T03:23:32Z")

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For the Arma fit?

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**Author:** ![Saori\_Ishida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saori_ishida/32/107392_2.png) [@Saori\_Ishida](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saori_Ishida)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/35 "2018-11-20T19:01:19Z")

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Yes please

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**Author:** ![Saori\_Ishida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saori_ishida/32/107392_2.png) [@Saori\_Ishida](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saori_Ishida)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/36 "2018-11-20T19:39:06Z")

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What is your passive shield regen per second? Also, you don’t need a prop mod? I just set up my Gila very similar to this but dropped a AIF for a 10mn AB and used the low shield mod instead of the DC2. The one that bumps shield regen. I’m sitting at 124 regen/sec and 750ish dps. I have not tried a lvl 4 but hope to tonight. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/37 "2018-11-21T05:46:40Z")

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Ok. Put it up soon.

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**Author:** ![Sienna\_Khalifa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_khalifa/32/109552_2.png) [@Sienna\_Khalifa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Khalifa)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/38 "2018-11-21T16:29:41Z")

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seeing that this is an advice thread. i’ve been wanting to ask the following. why people fit MWD on Battleships for L4s? does the speed bonus offfset the bloom in signature or something? all the other ships use AB for missions, is the 100MN AB that bad in comparison?

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**Author:** ![Felicitas\_Minbar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felicitas_minbar/32/230700_2.png) [@Felicitas\_Minbar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felicitas_Minbar)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/39 "2018-11-21T16:38:35Z")

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It depends.

I always preferred afterburners over microwarpdrives.

Nothing beats a afterburner plus micro jump drive dual prop fitting.

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-lvl4-mission-ship-advice/75657/40 "2018-11-21T16:46:15Z")

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Some missions have gates that are 50+ km apart and they want to speed up their mission completion times. A Snake moves like a wounded oil tanker without a mwd on those types of missions.

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