# High Sec PVE Revamp Needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Tags:** pve, high-sec\ **Created:** [June 15, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728 "2024-06-15T19:32:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GalacticSlave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galacticslave/32/419926_2.png) [@GalacticSlave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GalacticSlave)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/1 "2024-06-15T19:32:45Z")
High Sec PVE needs an overhaul, missions are boring after doing them for so long, some missions can be good for ISK making like Enemies Abound 1-5 however a new addition of new missions would be very welcome, imagine moving Level 5’s into high sec for corp operations. I don’t see very many people doing level 5’s, i myself have never done one and would really like to but im not going into low sec to a camped mission agent just to be blow up, i know there is risk v reward so many people would disagree with the idea. LP stores could also use an overhaul also. I Would like to see in the next couple of expansions something to do with high sec along the PVE line and before people say it, yes this is PVP Game (100%) but there is still a high sec pve player base to think of. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/2 "2024-06-16T01:23:31Z")
We’ve been asking for this for over a decade… ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/3 "2024-06-16T01:30:23Z")
L5’s are ran with carriers for a reason. If you tried them in high sec, you’d need a fleet of battleships. Not to mention whatever systems the L5’s were ran out of would be a ganker’s heaven 24/7. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/4 "2024-06-16T01:40:30Z")
Missions are some of the oldest content in the game. Ccp knows they need to overhaul it, but it would be so hard to do, they put it so far ahead on the schedule that you never hear about it. Sure they added a few new L2s but abyss and other pve content is what theyve added instead of missions. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/5 "2024-06-16T07:16:51Z")
Battleship Burners would be nice. ---
**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/6 "2024-06-16T11:53:49Z")
Way way way down the priority list my guy. So um. gl hang tight. It was hard enough to get CCP to patch incursions once in like 5 years. It will be awhile before they touch missions. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/7 "2024-06-16T18:22:51Z")
High sec has had revamped PVE. Just not in the form of missions. Abyssals and Homefronts are where it’s at. We are missing new Battleship and Battlecruiser level PVE though, but I would rather they not rush it. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/8 "2024-06-16T18:35:14Z")
If only there was a whole effing game that doesn’t revolve around either highsec or missions that you could play. 🤯 ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/9 "2024-06-16T18:37:22Z")
they’re adding new battleship PvE out in nullsec, they can keep it, in my opinion cruisers and destroyers are more fun to fly, even for PvE. I’d rather do lvl3s in a HAC than lvl4s in a Marauder. ---
**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/10 "2024-06-16T18:54:25Z")
go to do the funny level V missions in lowsec ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/11 "2024-06-16T19:17:06Z")
Go do DED Complexes and Escalations ---
**Author:** ![Jandin\_Kobera](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jandin_kobera/32/424353_2.png) [@Jandin\_Kobera](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jandin_Kobera)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/12 "2024-06-16T20:08:07Z")
The issue with missions is that they’ve been badly affected by inflation. Several more lucrative highsec PVE options have been introduced over the years (incursions, abyssals etc.), while missions and their rewards have been left static pretty much from their inception. If anything, the reward has been decreased thanks to a combination of the drop in tech1 salvage prices, the removal of base tech1 modules from loot tables, and rampant FW botting devaluing loyalty points. Coupled with increased prices, level 4 missions have gone from being a moderately lucrative source of income to borderline pointless. Pretty much the only incidental upgrade they’ve had was the marauder buff. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/13 "2024-06-16T21:27:25Z")
So the EvE version of McDonald’s workers demanding $20 because they won’t go get a job somewhere that pays more? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/14 "2024-06-17T11:07:40Z")
> [@Andlaust](#): > > the EvE version of McDonald’s workers demanding $20 the workers didn’t demand it , politicians pushed it so they can take more in payroll taxes . and many lvl4’s corps LP value was trashed when they implemented 1/2 price offers for FW corps … ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/15 "2024-06-17T14:58:58Z")
> [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > > [@Andlaust](#): > > > > the EvE version of McDonald’s workers demanding $20 > > the workers didn’t demand it , politicians pushed it so they can take more in payroll taxes . Right. I’ve got this really nice bridge for sale in Brooklyn. You interested? I’ll sell it cheap. 🤣 > [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > and many lvl4’s corps LP value was trashed when they implemented 1/2 price offers for FW corps … Then. 👏 Go. 👏 Do. 👏 Something. 👏 More. 👏 Profitable. 👏 I’m not understanding why this concept is so difficult for all of you. Can someone please explain to me what is keeping you from going to do any of the other current PvE activities that make more money than missions? Because you just look like lazy whiners that don’t want to take a greater risk for a greater reward, you just want the greater reward for doing the exact same thing you’ve been doing for 20 years. You’re playing Mario 3 for the SNES and complaining it’s not a 3d Mario when 3d Mario exists, it’s just not Mario 3. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/16 "2024-06-17T19:07:41Z")
not complaining mate , just -trying- to correct you about your RL analogy . i don’t run missions and have no problem keeping myself entertained while playing . smiley face clappy hands clappy hands etc ;p ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/17 "2024-06-17T19:22:13Z")
No one runs PvE missions in high sec for ISK, except for maybe burners. The purpose of PvE missions is to raise your corp and faction standings, not as your daily bread-and-butter ISK generator. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/18 "2024-06-17T19:47:01Z")
> [@QuakeGod](#): > > No one runs PvE missions in high sec for ISK, except for maybe burners. You might be surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Andlaust](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andlaust/32/422007_2.png) [@Andlaust](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andlaust)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/19 "2024-06-17T20:00:39Z")
I run them for ISK. But then again I discovered years ago it’s far easier to buy PLEX than to try to earn ISK in highsec. That was before the repeated nerfs to highsec income. ---
**Author:** ![SwingFish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/swingfish/32/449225_2.png) [@SwingFish](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SwingFish)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728/20 "2024-06-18T15:39:48Z")
i’m pretty sure Highsec + Pve is not supposed to provide “income” … you are supposed to push the economy byt buying ships you won’t need later and lose them doing what you are doing, so the materials you sell can be used to make new ones for you to buy. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-sec-pve-revamp-needed/452728.md?page=2)