# High Security space is too safe for Criminals **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** game-mechanics, balance\ **Created:** [July 14, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877 "2021-07-14T06:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chotgun\_Cobon-Han](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chotgun_cobon-han/32/279936_2.png) [@Chotgun\_Cobon-Han](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chotgun_Cobon-Han)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/1 "2021-07-14T06:33:46Z")
As it stands, High Security is a safer place for criminals to be active in. Criminals being able to stay tethered in High Security space should be on a timer similar to what happens with enemies of any nation. Security (CONCORD or Customs Agents) should warp in after a few minutes, and revoke tether access, then giving the standard timer that Security would show up. This also goes hand in hand with a looter middle man that will loot a wreck, go suspect, dump the loot and have a hauler on standby to grab it with no repercussions. That stolen loot should make anyone who grabs it (innocent or criminal) become suspect until that player docks with the loot. Edit: Other options that could be considered are Remote Reppers/Cap Emitters do not cause CONCORD aggression if you are in a fleet. Burst ECM could be another, but I think that’s more debatable since Freighter pilots duel with a scout webber for warps, or just be in a fleet (could mean webber scouts need to fit ECM resists). ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/2 "2021-07-14T06:35:23Z")
tethering is allowed by the owner of the station. If you are blacklisted by that particular station or corp, you will not be able to tether to it. ---
**Author:** ![Chotgun\_Cobon-Han](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chotgun_cobon-han/32/279936_2.png) [@Chotgun\_Cobon-Han](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chotgun_Cobon-Han)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/3 "2021-07-14T06:38:10Z")
It shouldn’t matter if some one has -5.0 security status or lower. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/4 "2021-07-14T06:41:14Z")
> [@Gank Complaint](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gank-complaint/307699): > > Criminals should be treated the same as other criminals. Can anyone explain to me why gankers with negative ten standings can be tethered in HS? The tactic these gankers use is simple. They sit tetherd at their structures and aligned to a gate with a scout sitting on the gate at either side and when a juicy target makes the jump, they warp to gate, land and gank before Concord can respond. This sure seems like an exploit, but arguably not. The issue is that they are flashy criminals and they … read this… you’ll see a lot of what you are talking about has been talked about in this thread.. ---
**Author:** ![Chotgun\_Cobon-Han](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chotgun_cobon-han/32/279936_2.png) [@Chotgun\_Cobon-Han](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chotgun_Cobon-Han)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/5 "2021-07-14T06:47:40Z")
Will give it a read, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/6 "2021-07-14T10:09:37Z")
Outlaws are allowed to dock and tether. They are hunted by FacPo. Structure owners are allowed to be corrupt/neutral. Criminals on the other hand cannot warp, dock or tether and are hunted by CONCORD. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/7 "2021-07-14T10:13:52Z")
> [@Chotgun\_Cobon-Han](#): > > should be on a timer similar to what happens with enemies of any nation. Outlaws and criminals aren’t enemies of any nation. Many of them literally never shoot an NPC. If anything it’s mission runners that would be the enemy of the Empires and standings should have more impact on the ability to safely operate in Empire space. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/8 "2021-07-14T11:54:26Z")
Disagree. Highsec is too safe for care bears. ![No P2W](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/9/e/c9e5bbcb978427c1d2c78ed0bf7e727425ef954f.png) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-security-space-is-too-safe-for-criminals/319877/9 "2021-10-12T11:54:42Z")
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