# High skill point players are not progressing out of highsec **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 1, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251 "2023-07-01T00:38:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/205 "2023-11-14T19:28:43Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > What? > > I have no idea what prompted you to respond with that. > > But uh, okay? Cool, I guess? why is that such a surprise ? xD > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > All I said, is that entertainment shouldn’t be high on the priority list, especially if a person has no income to dispose on it. not at all … entertainment can be a distraction from the stress you have every day. i dont think eve is the best place for this ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/206 "2023-11-14T19:32:44Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > why is that such a surprise Because your writing skills and ability to convey information sucks? > [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > entertainment can be a distraction from the stress you have every day. That’s the whole point I was trying to make. If one is too distracted by entertainment, and not being productive, that’s a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/207 "2023-11-14T19:35:18Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Because your writing skills and ability to convey information sucks? maybe i had a bad wording ? couldnt say but at my point it was ok xD > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > That’s the whole point I was trying to make. If one is too distracted by entertainment, and not being productive, that’s a problem. sometimes you only need some fun ! as a distraction from stress ! nothing else … no need to be productive 24/7 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/208 "2023-11-14T19:36:10Z")
> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#): > > you only need some fun ! […] no need to be productive 24/7 I agree. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/209 "2023-11-14T20:03:32Z")
I remember when the trig thing started some of our players wanted to try it out , now the doctrine at the time was go in with two battleships and kill the spawns as fast as you can . Not much fun after a couple of hours but isk efficient. We decided as some players had low skills we would go in a fleet for thorax with logi support , 3 logistic cruises and 10 thorax and what fun it was , one site two guys in bs warped in and said well that looks more fun than we are having can we join you , they reshipped and joined in the fun . It was a mad 3 hours with people coming and going and only lost one cruise when he got out of logi range . The point ,isk efficiency can sometimes make the game very dull , also the cruisers we used had a more PvP fit so we finished the day hunting some pirate and loot thieves… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/210 "2023-11-14T20:09:12Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Not much fun So why do it? ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/211 "2023-11-14T20:11:07Z")
We don’t Well I lie , we did fobs for a bit in amarr , ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/212 "2023-11-14T20:34:52Z")
> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#): > > But you somehow envision a large high sec group doing exactly that They have in the past , come together to fight , several times, with the mass of the player base in high sec I’m sure you can find enough willi people to form a fleet or two if it’s organised. We helped save a structure from a null group , the fleet was made up of mostly high sec and low sec groups , null sec lost that one . Another time Two large fraternity fleets turned up once trying to lord around caldari space , think the tried to help jita holdings fright black flag, it was a night for popcorn as concord kept killing the ones that don’t understand high sec. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/213 "2023-11-14T22:08:44Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > We helped save a structure > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Well I lie 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/214 "2023-11-14T22:16:31Z")
What I love about this community is how we purge entitlement. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/215 "2023-11-15T00:14:21Z")
> [@WhamyKablamy](#): > > It’s a mental block. If they’re not in the mind set of, “I’m earning this money to go and get something blown up in strange and interesting ways later”, then they continue to balk at it. Then I wonder why they are even playing Eve…a game where stuff getting blown up is the mainstay of the entire economy. They seem to want it to always be someone else’s stuff that gets blown up to keep the economic cycle going…but never their own. It reminds me of those miners who quite happily mine the very ore that makes Catalysts, but who then gripe that they just want to mine in peace when those very Catalysts show up and blow them up. ---
**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/216 "2023-11-15T00:17:07Z")
HS is **The Garden of The Gods!** ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/5/e/45e103f34b9e84928a324644e6c4cdbe3996364b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/217 "2023-11-15T00:35:25Z")
Are you from Manitou Springs? ---
**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/218 "2023-11-15T00:59:10Z")
No, I was stationed at Fort Carson. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/9/5/495497368bf09619bb4460c1b19078c67e3cb7cd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/219 "2023-11-15T01:00:10Z")
Pretty darn close those. That area is gorgeous. Especially in the early mornings. ---
**Author:** ![WhamyKablamy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whamykablamy/32/386793_2.png) [@WhamyKablamy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/WhamyKablamy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/220 "2023-11-15T01:13:56Z")
Who knows. What I do I know is that the vast majority of the time when I talk to people in newbie corps, or even more experienced players, their main concern with PvP is losing the ships and earning the money to make them back. ---
**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/221 "2023-11-15T01:14:11Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Manitou Springs I loved walking the streets there. So many nice shops. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/222 "2023-11-15T01:15:30Z")
Ya, that’s amazing too. Did you try a bit of water from each of the natural springs along the boardwalk? ---
**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/223 "2023-11-15T01:17:03Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > a game where stuff getting blown up is the mainstay of the entire economy You have a very limited perspective. Try thinking “outside of the box”. ---
**Author:** ![Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mobana_sayar_alar/32/394061_2.png) [@Mobana\_Sayar\_Alar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mobana_Sayar_Alar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/224 "2023-11-15T01:20:27Z")
Yes, but it’s been many years. You could see Pike’s Peak from my balcony. My first son was born at Fitzsimons Army Medical Center in Aurora, Colorado. Good times. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251.md?page=10) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251.md?page=12)