# High skill point players are not progressing out of highsec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [July 1, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251 "2023-07-01T00:38:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/102 "2023-07-13T15:18:41Z")

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I lose faith in humanity when people can’t critically think in a pixel space game… 😢

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/103 "2023-07-13T15:39:47Z")

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> [@Oosel](#):
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> being the idiot that i am i foolishly purchased goods in Misaba and took my viator fully fitted to evade all forms of combat what so ever…i also used a scout to ensure i wasnt going to run into any camps i then spent every day for 4 weeks trying to exit said station at varying times and using an insta bookmark needless to say in the end i still lost my goods and ships to people who spend day in day out camping that station and are far better at pvp than i will ever be  
> and that was the end of me going to low sec ever again

You mean you don’t use scouts ? Even if you can’t manage a second account, you can still at least use one character in your one account as a scout. I learned my lesson on scouts when collecting a Gnosis from asset safety. I used a scout all the way there, and at the asset safety station, and then got complacent one system from highsec on the way back…and got blapped. I always use scouts the entire way ever since…being able to multibox does help too.

I now regularly visit lowsec. Its not nearly as scary as people make out…except maybe for a few systems like Ahbazon. A good deal of lowsec is emptier than many parts of highsec.

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**Author:** ![Tark\_Thahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tark_thahal/32/376286_2.png) [@Tark\_Thahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tark_Thahal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/104 "2023-07-13T16:26:49Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> You can’t be this dumb.

I guess I am. I’d wager I’m even dumber than that for having ever logged in this forum.  
Have a nice life.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/105 "2023-07-13T16:31:25Z")

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My bad.  
Didn’t realize you were just trollin’.

Carry on.

–Gadget enjoys a good jest here and there

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**Author:** ![Tark\_Thahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tark_thahal/32/376286_2.png) [@Tark\_Thahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tark_Thahal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/106 "2023-07-13T16:45:06Z")

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If that’s what this forum is made up, I don’t need it.  
They weren’t kidding when they wrote “EVE players are toxic”.  
I’d be better off not logging into this forum any more. I know I’d feel better.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/107 "2023-07-13T16:57:24Z")

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If you don’t post drivel then we don’t have to call you on posting drivel.

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/108 "2023-07-13T16:58:16Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I now regularly visit lowsec. Its not nearly as scary as people make out

To be fair, Misaba is that scary. No amount of scout is helping you get stuff out of that station.

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**Author:** ![Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anthony_fattony_amico/32/391106_2.png) [@Anthony\_FatTony\_Amico](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anthony_FatTony_Amico)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/109 "2023-07-13T17:25:56Z")

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Guess some people only play EVE for fun/hr. Do everything in a corvette I guess. 😂 At least you got a high fun/hr in your EVE/RL career.

I’ll sit here on my pile of ISK that includes, awesome abyssal modules, shiny dead space modules, t2 hulls, and laugh at everyone who claims that they only play this game for fun/hr purely and have no interest in getting rich.

**This is what separates the billionaires/trillionaires from people who struggle to get 100mil these days.**  
🕶 💰

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**Author:** ![Niam\_Peres](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/niam_peres/32/378208_2.png) [@Niam\_Peres](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Niam_Peres)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/110 "2023-07-13T17:40:50Z")

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Im going to take everything ive done for eve and progress out of highsec today. Ill be back to play when war hqs are removed from game. (no you cant haz my stuff lol)  
So there we go, like many before me and many to come… we do have lots of progression not just out of highsec, but out of the game. Enjoy yourselves. o7

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/111 "2023-07-13T17:51:36Z")

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Hey Brun, long time no see!

Hope things have been going well for you!

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/112 "2023-07-13T17:53:21Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I now regularly visit lowsec. Its not nearly as scary as people make out…

It really isn’t. And with a few precautions, low can be a really lovely place.

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**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/113 "2023-07-13T18:29:56Z")

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Might just be me, Midas, but when games are consistently no longer fun, they simply stop being played.

Sometimes gathering wealth is the goal. Sometimes players add restrictions for extra challenge. Sometimes the challenge is making do with what ya got. And some people just don’t care… isk can be bought.

—Gadget enjoys the make-do challenge

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**Author:** ![Tark\_Thahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tark_thahal/32/376286_2.png) [@Tark\_Thahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tark_Thahal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/114 "2023-07-13T18:48:24Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> If you don’t post drivel then we don’t have to call you on posting drivel

Your life must really suck to have such a bad attitude towards strangers. I ain’t even mad at you, I pity you.  
I don’t know what happened in your life for you to be so bitter and mean but I hope you will one day get over it.  
Peace.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/115 "2023-07-13T18:50:03Z")

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Tark, stop being toxic.

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/116 "2023-07-13T19:12:09Z")

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> [@Tark\_Thahal](#):
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> Your life must really suck

Me calling out your lazy, low effort, copy/paste incorrect drivel is “toxic” according to you but it’s completely fine for you to bring IRL into this.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/117 "2023-07-13T19:40:27Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> To be fair, Misaba is that scary. No amount of scout is helping you get stuff out of that station.

I once had a Dominix end up in Misaba via asset safety.

I managed to get it out safely to Jita under the noses of a few campers on the undock. Still proud of it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/118 "2023-07-13T20:33:15Z")

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> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#):
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> To be fair, Misaba is that scary. No amount of scout is helping you get stuff out of that station.

Ooh…I detect a challenge.

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**Author:** ![Tark\_Thahal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tark_thahal/32/376286_2.png) [@Tark\_Thahal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tark_Thahal)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/119 "2023-07-13T20:33:31Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> Me calling out your lazy, low effort, copy/paste incorrect drivel

Yea, it’s just as I thought. Sometime in your life you were deeply hurt and haven’t recovered so you lash out at everybody and anyone who doesn’t do your bidding.  
I hope you can get over it and stop verbally molesting complete strangers online.  
I will pray for you.  
Peace.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/120 "2023-07-13T20:41:20Z")

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Are you a licensed psychologist?

And if so, don’t you think it’s extremely unprofessional to speculate on someone’s psychological history on an open forum like this?

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/high-skill-point-players-are-not-progressing-out-of-highsec/411251/121 "2023-07-13T20:42:16Z")

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> [@Tark\_Thahal](#):
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> Yea, it’s just as I thought. Sometime in your life you were deeply hurt and haven’t recovered so you lash out at everybody and anyone who doesn’t do your bidding.  
> I hope you can get over it and stop verbally molesting complete strangers online.  
> I will pray for you.  
> Peace.

While Aisha may have been blunt, it could have helped if you owned the obvious mistake she pointed out instead of making it a game of who can lash hardest.

_‘Oops’_  
_‘My bad’_  
_‘Oh of course the number of online characters is not representative of the total number of EVE players - I must have realised that. No need to bring it that harsh!’_

There’s plenty of ways to deal with being pointed at one of your mistakes that makes you come out as a more reasonable person than if you attack the messenger.

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