# Highsec Lobby Channel

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/highsec-lobby-channel/209769>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 3, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/highsec-lobby-channel/209769 "2020-01-03T21:24:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2020, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/highsec-lobby-channel/209769/67 "2020-01-07T15:06:42Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> Sorry, linking a thread in an MotD under the heading “What are your ideas?” does not make every post in that thread part of the channel goals, to my mind.

Cool. That’s your opinion.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> I won’t argue further than that, since I don’t support the channel nor any points in the thread, only the _actually stated goals_ of the _actual channel_ . You know, the thing you made the entire topic about.

Well, no, you’ve already admitted that this was in your mind, I.e. your opinion. You cant use the word “actual” while also admitting it’s based on your opinion.

Meanwhile, the _actual_ original post clearly states that I wanted to include, and discuss the thread as well.

> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> If you want to make points about what’s contained in the thread, you should probably make some links to or quotes from the actual thread.

I’d be happy to. All you had to do was ask.

We have given him ample suggestions on how to balance this by adding risk, such as adding a suspect timer. He refused.

> [@Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/188):
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> It is a nerf to highsec, because suspect timer everywhere means no concord, which is one of the defining distinctions between highsec and the other areas of the game, highsec is a limited pvp zone, the others are full pvp zones.

He thinks that getting 300 players to gank supercarriers is not a problem. What he didnt realize is that titans have twice the EHP, and therefore would take 600, 700 players to gank. We aren’t even including implants.

> [@Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/129):
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> Supers can be ganked, get 200-300 taloses and you can do it, less if the fit is not good. Your issue is that it is not ‘easy’, my response is toughen up and batphone your friends to gank them, you won’t be able to do it solo.

The counter to this, is of course his suggestion that you just need to trick the player into getting himself flagged as suspect. This is, of course, despite his refusal to permanently flag capitals, and his knowledge of the safety button.

> [@Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/94):
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> Then flag the pilot and kill his ship, you don’t need to be able to blow up every ship, and several hundred catalysts could kill a light tanked nyx, its more work than a badger naturally.

And all of this will culminate in what he sees as the eventual rise of hisec mirroring nullsec in terms of wealth.

> [@Allow Capital Ships, Supercarriers, and Titans in Highsec](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/allow-capital-ships-supercarriers-and-titans-in-highsec/185705/104):
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> No, I intend to live in highsec permanently, only people who want to restrict my gameplay are those like you, but we outnumber those who live in other areas, eventually highsec will be buffed to be equal to the other areas in fun and in wealth.

So yes, he doesnt want any of the risks associated with nullsec or ganking, with all the benefits and wealth that comes with it.

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