# Hilmar want to remove or correct NPC station and Assest Safety in Eve! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 18, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794 "2020-12-18T15:45:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/21 "2020-12-18T19:57:22Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > But… gankbabies will get more pew pew, that’s the goal with 100% of dev changes, it’s the victim’s fault for having assets sitting with reckless abandon in an NPC structure, everyone knows that. This is the nature of eve. Gankbears working with industry players was the original idea of eve. But they’ve made it so industry bears can survive alone. The goal is Gankbears with industry friends will have to defend their stuff from other gankbears. The best gankbears with the best industry bear buddies win! Edit: As an industry bear myself, I’m looking forward to something like this. I always thought it was a crappy mechanic that people could do industry without risking anything. Especially those lovely BPO’s. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/22 "2020-12-18T20:14:41Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > I always thought it was a crappy mechanic that people could do industry without risking anything. Especially those lovely BPO’s. If you are misguided enough to think that all assets should be at risk 24/7 with no reasonable way of responding, there’s not much I can do for you. Think of who doesn’t want that kind of change, everyone besides entitled super rich vets, then think about who wants that change, trollgrinning manchildren who are already getting erections over the idea of being able to poach loot from an NPC station. ---
**Author:** ![safira\_jomita](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/safira_jomita/32/405219_2.png) [@safira\_jomita](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/safira_jomita)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/23 "2020-12-18T20:17:14Z")
Not quite. There will be allways hisec production structures, that changes nothing to " carebears" . BTW, witch carebear broke your heart? ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/24 "2020-12-18T20:44:18Z")
Way to go missing the point. ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/25 "2020-12-18T20:46:12Z")
> [@safira\_jomita](#): > > BTW, witch carebear broke your heart? We don’t speak of that carebear anymore, he tried to make peace with Sols, and broke his heart, so now the war can never end. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/26 "2020-12-18T20:49:07Z")
> [@Valerie\_Valate](#): > > This isn’t the case in EVE. Indeed! Suddenly all your stuff actually _matters!_ Hoarding it will be _pointless!_ Now for everyone to add 1+1 together … Who loves hoarding the most _and_ can’t defend his ■■■■? 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/27 "2020-12-18T21:02:21Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > If you are misguided enough to think that all assets should be at risk 24/7 with no reasonable way of responding, there’s not much I can do for you. If you’re dishonest enough to say ‘no reasonable way of responding’. Then you probably shouldn’t do anything other than shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/28 "2020-12-18T21:12:47Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > EVE was started and designed by other people Hilmar was one of the early programmers of the game. He was appointed as CEO in 2004, but he was part of the development team before that (he has a computer science degree and joined CCP even before the beta was released). The legacy code issues are all his fault 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/29 "2020-12-18T21:14:26Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > If you’re dishonest enough to say ‘no reasonable way of responding’. > > Then you probably shouldn’t do anything other than shut up. lmfao kid lmfao lmfao lmfao You tell me, what is the reasonable way a player has to respond to 24/7 loot vulnerability in an NPC station? Get a job kid XDXDXDXDXD ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/30 "2020-12-18T21:18:02Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > You tell me, what is the reasonable way a player has to respond to 24/7 loot vulnerability in an NPC station? 24/7 loot vulnerability according to who? Does it not worry you that you have to lie to make any argument? ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/31 "2020-12-18T21:18:23Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > what is the reasonable way a player has to respond Adapt to whatever mechanics are ever (if ever) introduced and potentially distribute the risk by storing stuff in multiple locations, keep liquid ISK rather than lots of ships and modules, respond to any notifications the game sends you so that stuff gets moved before any of it can become loot, etc. Lots of things that could be done to adapt. However, seems more like an aspirational statement from Hilmar. Not a concrete part of the roadmap. Much ado about nothing at this stage. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/32 "2020-12-18T21:30:54Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > However, seems more like an aspirational statement from Hilmar. Not a concrete part of the roadmap. Much ado about nothing at this stage. Yep, exactly how I understood it when listening to his thoughts. Would one really engage in a game where there is absolutely no “asset safety” in a broad sense anywhere in the game, a game without a safe-ish entry point (hisec) ? Lol, it would fix the economy for sure, and fast. Some level of security is needed to build up a player’s options in a game. I thought that was a no-brainer. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/33 "2020-12-18T21:32:46Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Lol, it would fix the economy for sure, and fast. Lol yes. It would become the neverending cycle of loot. I loot you. You loot me. We all loot each other. Sounds like an ISK free economy. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/34 "2020-12-18T21:32:48Z")
It would make killing people actually meaningfull again 😍 ---
**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/35 "2020-12-18T21:32:56Z")
Much ado about what every neckbeard addict in the game with 6+ accounts wants. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/36 "2020-12-18T21:33:37Z")
Last pilot with a ship wins EvE 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/37 "2020-12-18T21:34:31Z")
> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#): > > Much ado about what every neckbeard addict in the game with 6+ accounts wants. Why? What are they getting to be all excited about? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/38 "2020-12-18T22:10:41Z")
BPO filled library Orca sitting logged off at a deep safe until I need the BPs? Thatll do fine tbh ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/39 "2020-12-18T22:12:38Z")
> [@safira\_jomita](#): > > witch carebear Cackle-a-lot Bear ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hilmar-want-to-remove-or-correct-npc-station-and-assest-safety-in-eve/285794/40 "2020-12-18T22:43:50Z")
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