# Hisec Icestorm Filament put me in Solitude! **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 13, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162 "2020-12-13T17:09:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hedwig\_Astari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hedwig_astari/32/246123_2.png) [@Hedwig\_Astari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hedwig_Astari)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/1 "2020-12-13T17:09:06Z")
I used a hisec icestorm filament today but it put me in Solitude. This system is surrounded by null sec it seems which means I have very little chance of getting back again! Is this intended behaviour? I have spent hours looking for a wormhole to get me back to normal hisec but no luck, This seems a little unfair and am wondering if it is a mistake? ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/2 "2020-12-13T17:13:25Z")
A high-sec island is still high-sec. I don’t know of a reason for them to have excluded any high-sec systems from the filaments - you aren’t promised to be safe using them, only that the destination system will be a high-sec system. It could be a minor victory system for a faction that hates you, or the staging system for a corp you are at war with, or a popular ganking system. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/3 "2020-12-13T17:13:48Z")
Nothing unfair about it. You knew Solitude exists and it could have hit anyone. It’s funny, though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/4 "2020-12-13T17:16:23Z")
If you are friendly toward trigs, you could see if you can find a Pochven entry filament to get out of Solitude and back to high-sec via an exit filament or static WH - you have decent odds of getting a HS connection in Caldari space. ---
**Author:** ![Meditril](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meditril/32/378591_2.png) [@Meditril](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meditril)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/5 "2020-12-13T17:18:23Z")
Scan a WH and find a short cut into main high-sec. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/6 "2020-12-13T18:22:47Z")
> [@Hedwig\_Astari](#): > > I used a hisec icestorm filament today but it put me in Solitude. This system is surrounded by null sec it seems which means I have very little chance of getting back again! Is this intended behaviour? I have spent hours looking for a wormhole to get me back to normal hisec but no luck, This seems a little unfair and am wondering if it is a mistake? HA HA ty for making me smile 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bernie\_Nator](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bernie_nator/32/390552_2.png) [@Bernie\_Nator](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bernie_Nator)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/7 "2020-12-13T19:18:49Z")
Wait literally 15 minutes and use another. Luck of the draw. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/8 "2020-12-13T19:25:43Z")
…aaaand this is why I made sure I was in a clone with no implants and a cheap ship before using one. ---
**Author:** ![Hedwig\_Astari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hedwig_astari/32/246123_2.png) [@Hedwig\_Astari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hedwig_Astari)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/9 "2020-12-13T19:27:13Z")
I never thought it would take me to a hisec island, I thought wrong. I’ll try and get another filament though. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/10 "2020-12-13T19:31:19Z")
you should have more of these filaments, next time it can be also high sec island ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/11 "2020-12-13T20:45:12Z")
> [@Hedwig\_Astari](#): > > I never thought it would take me to a hisec island, I thought wrong. I’ll try and get another filament though. yah dock board your corvette buy some filaments bada bing bada boom ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/12 "2020-12-13T21:36:39Z")
HS to HS wormholes from solitude are common enough that you will be able to get your ship out. I haven’t moved ships in and out of solitude a lot, so I’m not exactly working with a large sample size here, but I’ve never had to wait more than a day to find a wormhole. Plus, we now have the pochven filaments, and you can use the same type of filament that got you there. So, you have options. If you have any questions, ask. ---
**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 8:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/13 "2020-12-14T08:57:25Z")
As per my experience in other HS islands (never been to Solitude yet), HS-HS WH to get out of there are pretty much very rare. Scanning daily a couple rounds per day, can take days or even over a week (or closer to eternity) to find one. Or they get used up very quickly… not sure what’s actually the case. ---
**Author:** ![Gergoran\_Moussou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gergoran_moussou/32/381607_2.png) [@Gergoran\_Moussou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gergoran_Moussou)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/14 "2020-12-14T09:05:19Z")
You ended up in High-Sec, didn’t you? So what’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/15 "2020-12-14T09:50:45Z")
My guess is that the discrepancy in our experiences is due to differences in the size of HS pockets. Solitude has 17 systems, which provides considerably more opportunity for a desired WH to spawn, than a pocket of 3 to 4 systems would. > **[DOTLAN EveMaps: Map: Solitude](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Solitude)** > > DOTLAN EveMaps is the leading online/interactive map/alliance/corporation resource database for Eve Online ---
**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/16 "2020-12-14T10:01:33Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > Solitude has 17 systems, which provides considerably more opportunity for a desired WH to spawn, than a pocket of 3 to 4 systems would Agreed. Although on the other hand the scanning will take proportionally longer and there will likely be more people competing for the WH traffic limit. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/17 "2020-12-14T10:19:15Z")
Kid, you think _you_ got problems? I drank the mezcal with a dead cobra inside the bottle at a rave, and woke up on Gary Busey’s front lawn. ---
**Author:** ![Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/neo_bladedrifter/32/244232_2.png) [@Neo\_Bladedrifter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Neo_Bladedrifter)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/18 "2020-12-14T11:34:23Z")
what ship did you use? Rattlesnake? ---
**Author:** ![Penance\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/penance_toralen/32/244089_2.png) [@Penance\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Penance_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/19 "2020-12-14T12:05:55Z")
WH type A641 occurs on average per 2 or 3 days. IIRC they have a life-cycle of 16hours, so you can scan breakfast and dinner. (or ask the locals!) Although they can go to other HS Islands ironically. Of course it would be unpleasant if you happen to have negative standing to Gallente. Boystin has the market hub. ---
**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162/20 "2020-12-14T12:24:47Z")
> [@Penance\_Toralen](#): > > they have a life-cycle of 16hours, so you can scan breakfast and dinner It in no way means they do last 16 hours. This type of connection seems to be pretty popular with many people waiting for it to open to push their stuff through safely. Heavily used WH collapses in no time due to the traffic limit being exhausted, regardless of its life-cycle length [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-icestorm-filament-put-me-in-solitude/285162.md?page=2)