# Hisec war engagement **URL:** \ **Category:** Warfare & Tactics\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412 "2019-04-17T19:18:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/41 "2019-04-18T08:55:10Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > Now everyone in a rush to join a null blob for isk… even though you dont even need to be in null to make that isk. Worth adding to this that the change in demographics takes a huge part in this. CCP targets simple minded folks who like to feel important, rich and powerful. So they attract losers who are easy on the wallet, who require hiding in the group because it prevents them from feeling their weakness, powerlessness and insignificance. It’s an interesting mix of Bread&Circus sprinkled with elements of fascism. That’s why the goons are so incredibly successful. They’re pretty much the posterboys for this. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/42 "2019-04-18T12:21:30Z")
test too tbh horde are… horde ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Kalus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lord_kalus/32/512583_2.png) [@Lord\_Kalus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lord_Kalus)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/43 "2019-04-18T13:50:43Z")
> [@Rivr\_Luzade](#): > > With this stupid WHQ change, TEST and CFC can just rofldumpster this HQ structure and end the war This may have already been covered, I haven’t really dug too deeply into the dev blogs yet. I’m curious if there will be some kind of rule that the war HQ also has to be somewhere in highsec. I could see a group putting their sole structure somewhere deep in wormhole space to still wardec as much as they want. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/44 "2019-04-18T13:56:45Z")
> [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > I’m curious if there will be some kind of rule that the war HQ also has to be somewhere in highsec. Yes. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/45 "2019-04-18T16:08:18Z")
> [@Lord\_Kalus](#): > > if there will be some kind of rule that the war HQ also has to be somewhere in highsec. > **[War, War Sometimes Changes | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/war-war-sometimes-changes)** > > Check out this dev blog for more information on the next stage in the overhaul of the war declaration system! > [@](#): > > After the May release, whenever a corporation or alliance declares a non-mutual war they will be required to select a specific Upwell Structure (only including Upwell structures with docking facilities, not FLEX structures) they own somewhere in highsec space. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/46 "2019-04-18T16:49:28Z")
not to worry … suspect baiting will be gone . ccp will make mining your moon ore a suspect offense . null sec blocs take all 05 moons . be careful what you wish for . ---
**Author:** ![Jehle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jehle/32/390836_2.png) [@Jehle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jehle)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/47 "2019-04-18T20:43:44Z")
> **[zkillboard.com / War 639227](https://zkillboard.com/war/639227/)** > > zkillboard.com is a killboard for the Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) EVE-Online. There’s the war removing bad wolf structures. Looks engaging. ---
**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/48 "2019-04-19T00:04:10Z")
> [@Buggs\_LeRoach](#): > > be careful what you wish for . I wish for a way to deal with problems that does not force me to consider high sec miner ganking as a viable alternative. Mercenaries were an alternative. ---
**Author:** ![BIade\_Runner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/biade_runner/32/143170_2.png) [@BIade\_Runner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BIade_Runner)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/49 "2019-04-19T13:41:49Z")
You got completely out of your Owner of Hek character with this post 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/50 "2019-04-19T15:26:14Z")
Hey, it’s been years. CCP killed Hek. I should do my annual visit and check out if it improved again. ---
**Author:** ![Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lorelei_ierendi/32/190833_2.png) [@Lorelei\_Ierendi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lorelei_Ierendi)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/51 "2019-04-19T18:41:52Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > I should do my annual visit and check out if it improved again. Let us know what you think. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/52 "2019-04-19T20:00:37Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > CCP killed Hek and how exactly ccp killed hek? It is doing quite well so far… just need to get some more ppl to actively use it. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/53 "2019-04-19T21:10:12Z")
How can you even write “it’s doing well” when you at the same time declare it needs more people? Does it really need more people, or more local activity? A thousand people are worth nothing when all they’re doing is sitting docked or farming their ■■■■■■■■, in perpetual silence. Please explain what you mean by “well”, because there’s a good chance we’re not talking about the same. Including last time I checked, _your_ “well” is a shadow of its former glory back in 2012. Back when there’s always activity in local, activity at the boundless undock, always someone dumb enough trying to shoot me. What’s this “well” you speak of? Did the situation change signifcantly? Speak! ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/54 "2019-05-11T12:13:56Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > How can you even write “it’s doing well” when you at the same time declare it needs more people? Does it really need more people, or more local activity? A thousand people are worth nothing when all they’re doing is sitting docked or farming their ■■■■■■■■, in perpetual silence. Have you been to rens lately? That is what dead system is like - not only is it quiet, it also has no supply on the market. As a trader I can say Hek is doing well - but it DOES need more people. Without influx of new people it will go the way of Rens. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Please explain what you mean by “well”, because there’s a good chance we’re not talking about the same. Including last time I checked, _your_ “well” is a shadow of its former glory back in 2012. Back when there’s always activity in local, activity at the boundless undock, always someone dumb enough trying to shoot me. I joined in 2016. No idea what it was like in 2012. True, it is more quiet now, but you can still find some action here, at least in EU tz. Maybe stating “does well” was too much - it is on the verge of needing life support… and probably the only reason why it does well at all is due to citadels in the system (that has drained ppl from Rens and spread around market and in time also personal activity across more systems). ---
**Author:** ![Tater-nuts](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tater-nuts/32/189043_2.png) [@Tater-nuts](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tater-nuts)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/55 "2019-05-11T22:49:58Z")
Hek and Rens depend heavily on Faction Warfare to be successful hubs. They will continue their slow spiral downward until FW gets fixed. Given CCP’s record of “fixing things” it’s at best a 50/50 chance Hek and Rens ever become meaningful, active hubs again. ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/56 "2019-05-12T10:37:48Z")
> [@Tater-nuts](#): > > Hek and Rens depend heavily on Faction Warfare to be successful hubs. They will continue their slow spiral downward until FW gets fixed. Given CCP’s record of “fixing things” it’s at best a 50/50 chance Hek and Rens ever become meaningful, active hubs again. To be fair a lot of it has to do with the fact that all other factions have one central hub - and we are the only ones who split it between two. If you add Rens and Hek together you end up with market of comparable size to Dodixie. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/57 "2019-05-19T00:01:37Z")
> [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > with market of comparable size to Dodixie. That’s sad considering the sad state Dodixie is in … Unless things changed for the better again? Man, I’m an old fart in this game. -.- > [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](#): > > No idea what it was like in 2012. It was amazing! Absolutely glorious! We had an actual community there! You couldn’t say anything in local without getting a response! > [@Tater-nuts](#): > > Given CCP’s record of “fixing things” it’s at best Upper management doesn’t give a ■■■■ about the game, so unless there’s a “business case” that promises them more money, they’re not going to do jack ■■■■ about anything at all. They only care about gathering plenty of simple minded farmers who are easily parted of their money. We should ■■■■■■■ revolt. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/58 "2019-05-19T01:33:51Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > We should ■■■■■■■ revolt. This says it all…IMO > **[Product Life Cycle](http://www.quickmba.com/marketing/product/lifecycle/)** > > Stages of the product life cycle, including their impact on marketing mix decisions... ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/0/7010c6777e1cb4e951b6216e6ac88bdd18ffc37a.gif) I can’t cut n’paste so I suggest you read it..it 100% backs-up your points. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/59 "2019-05-20T03:23:53Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > We should ■■■■■■■ revolt. You are revolting!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412/60 "2019-05-20T08:53:10Z")
HEY! THAT’S … a damn good pun actually! 😃 _(asshole 😊)_ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hisec-war-engagement/153412.md?page=4)