# Horible **URL:** \ **Category:** Forum Feedback & Requests\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311 "2017-06-21T19:36:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Luthien\_Niell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luthien_niell/32/2011_2.png) [@Luthien\_Niell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luthien_Niell)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/1 "2017-06-21T19:36:05Z")
Horible. Total mess. Zero design. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/2 "2017-06-21T19:38:03Z")
useful feedback. Very detailed. Horrible has 2 r’s by the way. ---
**Author:** ![CCP\_Avalon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_avalon/32/410280_2.png) [@CCP\_Avalon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Avalon)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/3 "2017-06-21T19:39:04Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/c/c99be34c0d76f7729333c1bb155266c7c02a9ce0.png) ---
**Author:** ![Taishoku\_Mayaki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/taishoku_mayaki/32/84487_2.png) [@Taishoku\_Mayaki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Taishoku_Mayaki)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/4 "2017-06-21T19:40:26Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/8/855eb133db8a364deba17e2b012dcdee3c2db15e.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Luthien\_Niell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luthien_niell/32/2011_2.png) [@Luthien\_Niell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luthien_Niell)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/5 "2017-06-21T19:41:27Z")
What details you need for word “mess”? Mess is just mess. You think, there is more different messes around? What details you need for word “zero”? How much detailed zero you need? … So yes, its horible… … sigh … Wish people use brain sometimes… ---
**Author:** ![Frostys\_Virpio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frostys_virpio/32/12703_2.png) [@Frostys\_Virpio](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frostys_Virpio)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/6 "2017-06-21T19:44:57Z")
You could mention what makes it a mess. I dislike it but as of right now, I no longer have the widest scroll bar ever seen to man and my screen get actual usage instead of only like 60%. There are some stuff they can try to change. It’s not perfect but at least they seem willing to put in some effort to make it better. ---
**Author:** ![Tonto\_Auri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tonto_auri/32/388339_2.png) [@Tonto\_Auri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tonto_Auri)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/7 "2017-06-21T19:49:09Z")
Basically what OP said. Zero design, lots of wasted space. Oh, and ugly faces all over the forum… ---
**Author:** ![Dethmourne\_Silvermane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dethmourne_silvermane/32/453423_2.png) [@Dethmourne\_Silvermane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dethmourne_Silvermane)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/8 "2017-06-21T19:49:36Z")
Am I allowed to report posts for being crimes against grammar/spelling? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/9 "2017-06-21T19:50:06Z")
Have you tried the wide theme? ---
**Author:** ![Cliff\_Beauland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cliff_beauland/32/13968_2.png) [@Cliff\_Beauland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cliff_Beauland)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/10 "2017-06-21T20:13:59Z")
But whats the mess - reading has never been cleaner? It is a WIP but if you cant provide an example of the mess - you aren’t really adding to the conversation - just adding salt. Zero design? The choices made are design. The entire thing is a design Perhaps you should go into some detail as what you expect DESIGN to be if you consider there to be zero. If you mean flashy buttons and somethinh liken to old forums - you clearly are so out of touch with contemporary web design and UX, that your commentary adds so little. Wish people would use their words sometimes rather than being reactionary about EVERYTHING. ---
**Author:** ![Tonto\_Auri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tonto_auri/32/388339_2.png) [@Tonto\_Auri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tonto_Auri)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/11 "2017-06-21T20:24:32Z")
By “zero design” I mean parts of the forum standing out like a sore thumb. It is literally painful to see. ---
**Author:** ![Cliff\_Beauland](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cliff_beauland/32/13968_2.png) [@Cliff\_Beauland](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cliff_Beauland)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/12 "2017-06-21T20:27:50Z")
Oh i understand what you were saying and agree . I would not call it ZERO design - I’d call it inappropriate. The clean - minimalism is a design choice. post was more for OP who isnt constructive. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/13 "2017-06-21T20:35:10Z")
wow such insight much words Much words (devs trolling means it’s free4all?) ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/14 "2017-06-21T20:36:19Z")
horrible\* ---
**Author:** ![Erika\_Mizune](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erika_mizune/32/154477_2.png) [@Erika\_Mizune](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erika_Mizune)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/15 "2017-06-21T20:38:30Z")
Very useful feedback indeed. 👍 I think it will take some warming up to get used to the new feel. I do miss having large character pictures/avatars tho. Seems too small. ---
**Author:** ![Lt\_Rolfcopter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lt_rolfcopter/32/17004_2.png) [@Lt\_Rolfcopter](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lt_Rolfcopter)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/16 "2017-06-21T20:43:36Z")
I am disappointed with the new forum layout. For reasons I am unable to explain, but attribute solely to the revision of the forum layout, it took over a dozen posts before the OP was trolled for spelling “horrible” wrong. This surely cannot be “functioning as intended”. Yes I called you “Shirley”: Live with it. ---
**Author:** ![ChYph3r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chyph3r/32/324228_2.png) [@ChYph3r](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ChYph3r)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/17 "2017-06-21T20:52:44Z")
ummm what code forum is this? that way i never use it! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/steve_ronuken/32/373894_2.png) [@Steve\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Steve_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/18 "2017-06-21T20:53:18Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/2X/9/98da6c03a405c005cb195b28f3b2e1c2cc6d2f56.gif) And I did comment on it. pay no mind to the edit icon. ---
**Author:** ![Drizzd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drizzd/32/17704_2.png) [@Drizzd](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Drizzd)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/19 "2017-06-21T20:58:18Z")
> [@ChYph3r](#): > > ummm what code forum is this? that way i never use it! as far as you can see when reading more than just 1 thread … its discourse …normally highly costumizable / configurable … especially colour themes - which ccp seem to have problems with. ---
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311/20 "2017-06-21T21:05:56Z")
Oh come on now… It’s not that bad. …Just imagin you have just hobbled off your boat… Your knee and wrist stumps are red and chafed from your wooden leg and brass hook… You are tired form hauling the old and heavy rope in from the sails… …you stumble and sway as you adjust to solid ground again after weeks at sea… Your mind drifts off to the sound of rum and smell of woman… Then out of nowhere three vikings appear, put a sack over your head and shuffle you off into a glass office and tell you to make a new forum or they will burn yer ship! You have no idea what a forum is so you start making knots hoping they will be impressed. They glare at your perfect cleat hitch but give you one hour and slam the door, leaving you alone with a beeb beeb machine and a rubber glove. Poor chap, I dont think he needs any more negative comments. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/horible/5311.md?page=2)