# House Etranhi Statement on the Security of Ny'Stetoh **URL:** \ **Category:** Intergalactic Summit\ **Created:** [September 19, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101 "2019-09-19T00:03:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/21 "2019-09-21T04:06:40Z")
My pleasure. Just watch your backs, PIE. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/22 "2019-09-21T08:07:48Z")
It could be they had specific orders to fire upon you if encountered, Arrendis, considering your provocative words dating all the way back from the Anath attack. ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/23 "2019-09-21T11:40:12Z")
> [@Leonel\_Yasavi](#): > > It never was, nor will it ever be AM Policy to work with Sansha Nation or Sansha Nation loyalists. You should kick Lord Crases then. > [@Leonel\_Yasavi](#): > > Our conflict with CVA is not one of conquest. They have fallen wayward of their once noble origins, to the point where they are not even led by one of the faithful. A comment that just as well applies to Aegis Militia. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/25 "2019-09-21T14:46:56Z")
If that were the case, I would have expected them to fire on me in the _first_ belt. After all, there was almost a full minute of lag-time between my arrival and their departure. I waited to see if they _would_ exchange fire with the Blood Raiders. The only difference is there, they left before I shot at the Blooders. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/26 "2019-09-21T14:48:53Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > You should kick Lord Crases then. And Graelyn, on whose behalf Kithrus approached the Sansha. ---
**Author:** ![Leonel\_Yasavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leonel_yasavi/32/131685_2.png) [@Leonel\_Yasavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leonel_Yasavi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/27 "2019-09-21T15:15:48Z")
> [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > You should kick Lord Crases then. It is also not the policy to take membership advice from heretics. ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/28 "2019-09-21T15:25:04Z")
> [@Leonel\_Yasavi](#): > > > [@Samira\_Kernher](#): > > > > You should kick Lord Crases then. > > It is also not the policy to take membership advice from heretics. Doesn’t stop you from recruiting them, though. ---
**Author:** ![Leonel\_Yasavi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leonel_yasavi/32/131685_2.png) [@Leonel\_Yasavi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leonel_Yasavi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/29 "2019-09-21T15:34:22Z")
Correct. All can be used to the greater service of Amarr, with the guiding hand of the faithful. Would you like an application? ---
**Author:** ![Samira\_Kernher](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samira_kernher/32/244840_2.png) [@Samira\_Kernher](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samira_Kernher)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/30 "2019-09-21T15:44:05Z")
No thanks. I try to avoid groups that have fallen wayward of their once noble origins. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/31 "2019-09-21T16:57:54Z")
> [@Leonel\_Yasavi](#): > > We were not aware that we needed permission from PIE to defend the Empire. Well you should probably start running your actions by _somebody_ before you take them. Had you done so, maybe you could have avoided some of the unfortunate choices made upon your rebirth. But by all means, keep doing your thing. Dig that hole. ---
**Author:** ![Felethia\_Etranhi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felethia_etranhi/32/171689_2.png) [@Felethia\_Etranhi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felethia_Etranhi)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/32 "2019-09-21T18:21:24Z")
Ave Empyreans, A small update from the perspective of House Etranhi: It has become clear that the deployment of the 7th Asbara is related to Her Grace Queen Zidarez’s visit of the Tol-Jikar holdings on Mishi IV. While we were aware her family had holdings here, the visit was unannounced and preceded by the 7th Asbara’s landing, thus prompting the concern. We are pleased that the deployment was merely a security operation and no present danger exists, as far as currently known. However, considering the events of Kahah III last year and the continued Blood Raider presence evidenced by sightings and engagements yesterday, our Lord Etranhi has concluded that Ny’Stetoh’s level of alertness is appropriate and will remain in effect until Her Grace’s departure from our system. We wish her the warmest of welcomes to Mishi IV, and pray that she has both a pleasant and safe tour of the Tol-Jikar lands and the planet itself. ---
**Author:** ![Jen\_Roku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jen_roku/32/397361_2.png) [@Jen\_Roku](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jen_Roku)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/33 "2019-09-21T18:28:25Z")
Observations made in space by LUMEN forces would seem to reinforce your assessment of the situation Lady Etranhi. We will however continue to closely monitor the situation for the time being and my forces shall remain at your disposal until we can be assured there is no imminent threat. In addition, moving forwards the Societas will be looking at a closer involvement with the Mishi system. Perhaps we have been neglectful of an opportunity to assist a world that has significant meaning for many of our members. Jenniver. ---
**Author:** ![Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aldrith_shutaq/32/378618_2.png) [@Aldrith\_Shutaq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aldrith_Shutaq)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/34 "2019-09-21T19:13:36Z")
I am certain the Lord Etranhi will be pleased to hear that, Madam Karuna. For the Newelle Family’s part, we have anchored an Atrahaus citadel in orbit over the planet to better coordinate and supply ground forces on the surface, as well as to provide a base for space superiority missions should they become necessary. With the heavy Khanid and Kador security presence in the system this hopefully will be nothing more than a redundancy, but considering the importance of the Queen and the personal attachments many of us have to the world, I do believe it a prudent move. ---
**Author:** ![Kithrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kithrus/32/341031_2.png) [@Kithrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kithrus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/35 "2019-09-21T20:48:37Z")
> [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > Well you should probably start running your actions by _somebody_ before you take them. I’ve lost track how many times the Lord Consort had to take you aside. You are justifying your actions that CAN not SHOULD. If mobile depots could be a threat to a citadel then I invite you too list them. > [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > But by all means, keep doing your thing. Dig that hole. Oh was the formation of AM not to your liking? Great, I’m glad hindsight is twenty-twenty. Allow me to congratulate you on never being hasty, hotheaded, spoke out of turn or were reckless. My failing are larger then yours? It’s because I deal in scales larger then you. I’m a Khanid Lord, I deal in fleets and planets. Thousands of lives and billions of credits. If you feel you can match what we do in week I invite you to try. When you fail or when things go wrong I’ll be there with a drink instead of a sharp word. Maybe then you’ll understand. Till then keep your own council. I’d have rather failed trying then become dusty stagnating refusing to act till it’s “the perfect time”. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/36 "2019-09-21T21:11:47Z")
> [@Kithrus](#): > > I’ve lost track how many times the Lord Consort had to take you aside. He can talk to me privately whenever he wants, but the truth is that I elect to serve Lady Newelle. Aldrith is merely my friend. > [@Kithrus](#): > > If mobile depots could be a threat to a citadel then I invite you too list them. I don’t know what sort of spy equipment your little depots might be rigged with. Better to just blast them open. > [@Kithrus](#): > > Allow me to congratulate you on never being hasty, hotheaded, spoke out of turn or were reckless. Thank you. > [@Kithrus](#): > > It’s because I deal in scales larger then you You don’t, actually. > [@Kithrus](#): > > I’m a Khanid Lord, I deal in fleets and planets. Thousands of lives and billions of credits. I’m a True Amarr noble from Dam-Torsad so what you are in the Kingdom means little to me. I likewise deal in fleets and spend billions of isk per month on them. The difference is that built a low security coalition centered around my allies through my own work while you _pay_ pirates for the privilege of riding their coattails. Try to do what you do? I’d like to see _you_ try to do half of what I’ve done without leeching onto the back of a pirate coalition attacking Amarr loyalists. ---
**Author:** ![Kithrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kithrus/32/341031_2.png) [@Kithrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kithrus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/37 "2019-09-21T21:22:52Z")
> [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > I don’t know what sort of spy equipment your little depots might be rigged with. Better to just blast them open. All registered concord equipment is know. Unless standing in system is considered spying now you are being fantastical. > [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > You don’t, actually. Do you run an alliance? Do you hold court? Do you have to have weekly meetings on capital ship movement and deployment? Do you have to balance standings and diplomacy? > [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > I’m a True Amarr noble from Dam-Torsad so what you are in the Kingdom means little to me. That’s fine but wasn’t the point. I don’t care if you honor my title or not but you can and will respect those who do wich includes your betters. > [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > The difference is that built a low security coalition centered around my allies through my own work while you _pay_ pirates for the privilege of riding their coattails. > > Try to do what you do? I’d like to see _you_ try to do half of what I’ve done without leeching onto the back of a pirate coalition attacking Amarr loyalists. Every single member of that coalition is former CVA disenfranchised by their ■■■■ diplomacy. I don’t ‘pay them’ to be down there. We were invited because we had our own issues. But if you want to apply your logic like that. CVA attacked me first in the bleak lands when were still in the militia. When we were still blue to you. Therefore I demand you join me in providence… No? We are Amarr loyalist, while I hold no requirement you trust in space and feel better drawing a weapon in our presence I’ll thank you to take that sparkling intellect and apply it to facts. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/38 "2019-09-21T22:00:06Z")
> [@Kithrus](#): > > Do you have to have weekly meetings on capital ship movement and deployment? If that’s such a burden for you, Kithrus, I’d be happy to help out with that, you know. You’re only 25j away, I’m sure we can get some of our more experienced folks to lend a hand. ---
**Author:** ![Kithrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kithrus/32/341031_2.png) [@Kithrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kithrus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/39 "2019-09-21T22:00:50Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > If that’s such a burden for you, Kithrus, I’d be happy to help out with that, you know. You’re only 25j away, I’m sure we can get some of our more experienced folks to lend a hand. Its not a burden but thank you for offering. ---
**Author:** ![Arsia\_Elkin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arsia_elkin/32/388703_2.png) [@Arsia\_Elkin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arsia_Elkin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/40 "2019-09-21T22:03:47Z")
> [@Kithrus](#): > > All registered concord equipment is know. Unless standing in system is considered spying now you are being fantastical. This year I’ve seen everything from satellites to whatever the hell a pancake jamming beacon is register as ‘mobile depot.’ I don’t trust you, so I don’t trust your depots. > [@Kithrus](#): > > Do you run an alliance? I run what is effectively a low security coalition. Also, according to public records, your alliance in its most active month, February, had 16 pilots with at least one kill and only 3 with a double digit kills. It doesn’t seem like you have much to run. I however, do. > [@Kithrus](#): > > Do you hold court? I have a variety of regular duties for not just one, but _two_ noble families. As we established, I elect to serve Lady Newelle, but that doesn’t mean I get out of my duties to my own family. > [@Kithrus](#): > > Do you have to have weekly meetings on capital ship movement and deployment? I have regular meetings which deal with planning how to fight capital ships among other things. > [@Kithrus](#): > > Do you have to balance standings and diplomacy? Yes. > [@Kithrus](#): > > I don’t care if you honor my title or not but you can and will respect those who do wich includes your betters. I respect those who deserve it. > [@Kithrus](#): > > When we were still blue to you. Therefore I demand you join me in providence… > > No? No. I had a diplomatic incident with a member of Provibloc in the warzone recently. What did I do? I talked with a CVA Diplomat and sorted it out like a ■■■■■■■ adult. It’s _really_ not that difficult. > [@Kithrus](#): > > I’ll thank you to take that sparkling intellect and apply it to facts. I have been. You just don’t like them. This is the last little bit of my time I’ll waste replying to you on this matter. Feel free to take the last word if you so wish. ---
**Author:** ![Kithrus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kithrus/32/341031_2.png) [@Kithrus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kithrus)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101/41 "2019-09-21T22:07:08Z")
> [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > No. I had a diplomatic incident with a member of Provibloc in the warzone recently. What did I do? I talked with a CVA Diplomat and sorted it out like a ■■■■■■■ adult. I did, they told me off but thank you for pretending to be there. While CVA has the empires blessing they don’t have functioning diplo. Thus the problem. > [@Arsia\_Elkin](#): > > I have been. You just don’t like them. > > This is the last little bit of my time I’ll waste replying to you on this matter. Feel free to take the last word if you so wish. I will because there are things you clearly don’t know, pretending you do, frequently speaking on. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/house-etranhi-statement-on-the-security-of-nystetoh/191101.md?page=3)