# How CCP stopped me from playing my game style **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059 "2023-08-22T20:03:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/186 "2023-08-26T01:50:34Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Hey…I’m still skilling up for Advanced Fawning Sycophancy Level V Hush little one, the adults are talking. ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/187 "2023-08-26T01:54:54Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > In fact, ironically, by the end of those 400 years the Brits sent a delegation to Rome asking that the Romans _not_ go home when their empire began to collapse and the dreaded **Vikings moved in** Revise your history, please! The Vikings entered Britain much later. It was the Picts, the Saxons and the Scoti who took control of Britain after the Romans left the island. In 383, the Roman general then assigned to Britain, Magnus Maximus, launched his successful bid for imperial power, crossing over to Gaul with his troops. He killed the Western Roman Emperor Gratian and ruled Gaul and Britain as Caesar (i.e., as a “sub-emperor” under Theodosius I). 383 is the last date for any evidence of a Roman presence in the north and west of Britain, perhaps excepting troop assignments at the tower on Holyhead Mountain in Anglesey and at western coastal posts such as Lancaster. These outposts may have lasted into the 390s, but they were a very minor presence, intended primarily to stop attacks and settlement by groups of Déisi, from Ireland. Coins dated later than 383 have been excavated along Hadrian’s Wall, suggesting that troops were not stripped from it, as once thought or, if they were, they were quickly returned as soon as Maximus had won his victory in Gaul. In the De Excidio et Conquestu Britanniae, written c. 540, Gildas attributed an exodus of troops and senior administrators from Britain to Maximus, saying that he left not only with all of its troops, but also with all of its armed bands, governors, and the flower of its youth, never to return. Raids by Saxons, Picts, and the Scoti of Ireland had been ongoing in the late 4th century, but these increased in the years after 383. There were also large-scale permanent Irish settlements made along the coasts of Wales under circumstances that remain unclear. Maximus campaigned in Britain against both the Picts and Scoti, with historians differing on whether this was in the year 382 or 384 (i.e., whether the campaign was before or after he became Caesar). Welsh legend relates that before launching his usurpation, Maximus made preparations for an altered governmental and defence framework for the beleaguered provinces. Figures such as Coel Hen were said to be placed into key positions to protect the island in Maximus’s absence. As such claims were designed to buttress Welsh genealogy and land claims, they should be viewed with some scepticism. In 388, Maximus led his army across the Alps into Italy in an attempt to claim the purple. The effort failed when he was defeated in Pannonia at the Battle of the Save (in modern Croatia) and at the Battle of Poetovio (at Ptuj in modern Slovenia). He was then executed by Theodosius. With Maximus’s death, Britain came back under the rule of Emperor Theodosius I until 392, when the usurper Eugenius made a bid for imperial power in the Western Roman Empire until 394 when he was defeated and killed by Theodosius. When Theodosius died in 395, his 10-year-old son Honorius succeeded him as Western Roman Emperor. The real power behind the throne, however, was Stilicho, the son-in-law of Theodosius’ brother and the father-in-law of Honorius. Britain was suffering raids by the Scoti, Saxons, and Picts and, sometime between 396 and 398, Stilicho allegedly ordered a campaign against the Picts, likely a naval campaign intended to end their seaborne raids on the east coast of Britain. He may also have ordered campaigns against the Scoti and Saxons at the same time, but either way this would be the last Roman campaign in Britain of which there is any record. In 401 or 402 Stilicho faced wars with the Visigothic king Alaric and the Ostrogothic king Radagaisus. Needing military manpower, he stripped Hadrian’s Wall of troops for the final time. The year 402 is the last date of any Roman coinage found in large numbers in Britain, suggesting either that Stilicho also stripped the remaining troops from Britain, or that the Empire could no longer afford to pay the troops who were still there. Meanwhile, the Picts, Saxons and Scoti continued their raids, which may have increased in scope. In 405, for example, Niall of the Nine Hostages is described as having raided along the southern coast of Britain. The first Viking attack on what is now England that can be tied to a specific date was the raid on Lindisfarne, off the north-east coast, in 793 - although other episodes, at Portland and perhaps elsewhere along the south coast, may have predated it but not many centuries before. Historical facts are important. Too many lives have been lost to forget what the Romans did in Britain and Gaul. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/188 "2023-08-26T01:58:58Z")
> [@Sienna\_Massilia](#): > > Revise your history, please! Hard to do when you already know more than everyone else. > **[Dunning–Kruger effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect)** > > The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities. Some researchers also include the opposite effect for high performers: their tendency to underestimate their skills. In popular culture, the Dunning–Kruger effect is often misunderstood as a claim about general overconfidence of people with low intelligence instead of specific overconfidence of people unskilled at a particular task. > The Dunning–Kruger eff... ---
**Author:** ![Sienna\_Massilia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sienna_massilia/32/390388_2.png) [@Sienna\_Massilia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sienna_Massilia)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/189 "2023-08-26T02:07:05Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Hard to do when you already know more than everyone else I’m sorry. I get mad when people botch it about that part of European history. I’m none too fond of the Romans… In fact I hate them. They committed a multitude of genocidal acts against tribes that only asked to live in peace on their _own_ land and rounded up a quarter of the then-known world into slavery. The human race should never forget what they did. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/190 "2023-08-26T02:18:20Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/f/d/7fd362c9d2edd587d786a50cdc262cc39ec90eb8.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/191 "2023-08-26T02:22:55Z")
Now you are just fishing for hearts. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/192 "2023-08-26T02:28:31Z")
@Sienna_Massilia You can take solace in the knowledge that the Visigoths, under king Alaric, sacked “the eternal city” and paid the Romans back for what they did. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/193 "2023-08-26T02:29:52Z")
Did Altara ever clarify where the territory of Galactica is located? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/194 "2023-08-26T02:30:01Z")
I liked to play as Rome in Rome: Total War because they had the burning pig unit, which was hilarious. That’s how I destroyed Carthage. I just kept attacking them with stacks of pigs. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/1/a/71a007428a51b635ad3528d47348aaf1893126ca.jpeg "19 Incendiary Pigs") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_yVbU8FENY) ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/195 "2023-08-26T02:39:20Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Did Altara ever clarify where the territory of Galactica is located? Could it have been Galicia instead? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/196 "2023-08-26T02:42:48Z")
I’m not sure, it seems everytime someone corrects Silly Altara, she doesn’t respond and merely declares victory, running away only to re-energize the Dunning-Kruger field and come back to tell everyone that they are WRONG. Sad! Many people are saying this, believe me. It’s unfortunate, really, because I was trying to understand whether Battlerstar Galactica is about a spaceship or a territory, as I’ve never seen it, and Altara said it’s a territory and someone else asked whether that was true, but now that Altara has declared victory I guess we will never find out whether Altara is wrong about something. #WORDSALAD ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/197 "2023-08-26T02:58:39Z")
I’m just confused how _any_ interpretation of real-life military history can be extrapolated to the current EVE rule set for high-sec wars. A “war HQ” is literally just a random building (in many cases it’s not even armed or set up with equipment). It’s effectively useless, and offers no tactical or strategic importance for its owners. Yet for some reason, destroying it leads to a catastrophic, absolute loss for the enemy. It’s like if two countries were at war, and one manages to drop a bomb on the other’s random empty warehouse, and then tells it “okay, you have to turn off all of your tanks and planes now, we won the war, those are the rules.” It’s just so utterly pointless. I’d understand if the system required war parties to own Upwell structures, and the war would be lost for the first side to lose all of them completely. It would still be a dumb system, but at least it would make a _little bit_ of sense. What exists now exists not because it is a rational element of game design for the purpose of establishing victory conditions for conflicts, but to decrease the amount of wars as much as possible because neither CCP not its primary null-sec power bloc constituency likes them very much. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/198 "2023-08-26T02:59:08Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Battlerstar Galactica is about a spaceship or a territory It’s a spaceship. From memory, it’s about three spaceships, one named Galactica and two others. Those ships carried the last hope for humanity, in search of a new earth, when they encounter the Sylons ( I think that’s how it’s spelled but not sure ) who will be a pain in their butt for several seasons. It couldn’t have been a territory since they were only ever in space. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/199 "2023-08-26T02:59:58Z")
For that to be true, you would have to convince me that nullbears want to use Highsec as a safe space for autopiloting and AFK ‘gameplay’. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/200 "2023-08-26T03:01:40Z")
> [@Princess\_Valloris](#): > > It couldn’t have been a territory I’m confused, because @Altara_Zemara’s argument rested upon the claim that the _Galactica_ is a territory… if Altara is wrong about that, what else might be incorrect? I am sure there is some semantic explanation which will prove that we are mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Princess\_Valloris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/princess_valloris/32/381541_2.png) [@Princess\_Valloris](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Princess_Valloris)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/201 "2023-08-26T03:06:41Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > @Altara_Zemara’s argument rested upon the claim that the _Galactica_ is a territory “All Battlestar Galactica productions share the premise that in a distant part of the universe, a human civilization has extended to a group of planets known as the Twelve Colonies, to which they have migrated from their ancestral homeworld of Kobol. The Twelve Colonies have been engaged in a lengthy war with the Cylons, a cybernetic race whose goal is the extermination of the human species. The Cylons offer peace to the humans, which proves to be a ruse. With the aid of a human named Baltar, the Cylons carry out a massive nuclear attack on the Twelve Colonies and the Colonial Fleet of starships that protect them, devastating the fleet, laying waste to the Colonies, and destroying all but a small remaining population. Scattered survivors flee into outer space aboard a ragtag array of spaceworthy ships. Of the entire Colonial battle fleet, only the Battlestar Galactica, a gigantic battleship and spacecraft carrier, appears to have survived the attack. Under the leadership of Commander Adama, the Galactica and the pilots of “Viper fighters” lead a fugitive fleet of survivors in search of the fabled thirteenth colony known as Earth.” - Wikipedia Well, it’s definitely a spaceship. In EVE terms: a Carrier, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/202 "2023-08-26T03:18:06Z")
I don’t understand… …that can’t be true, because it would indicate Altara was incorrect? Maybe you are confused about the definition of territory, and what is a ship? Did you know Carthage is both a territory, state, confederation, colony, and city? England, however, is not a state. @Brun_Warbear taught me that one. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/203 "2023-08-26T03:20:56Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > This debate appears to have started on post 58, so I took it upon myself to conduct a brief survey, to see how many points each participant has scored (as defined by the number of hearts awarded). > > - Aiko Danuja 43 > - Destiny Corrupted 27 > - Io Koval 15 > - James Fucks 6 > - Altara Zemara 4 > - Aisha Katalen 2 > - Qia Kare 2 > - Princess Valloris 2 > - Wesley Baird 1 > - Bruno Warbear 1 > - Iceacid Frostbear 0 Poor @Iceacid_Frostpacker catching a stray round. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/204 "2023-08-26T03:23:11Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I’m not sure, it seems everytime someone corrects Silly Altara, she doesn’t respond and merely declares victory, running away only to re-energize the Dunning-Kruger field and come back to tell everyone that they are WRONG. Sad! Not really. You just post so much obfuscatory twaddle, bloated not sequitur word salad, and misdirection that the fact that you were originally wrong gets pushed 200 posts back. Then you accuse of ‘declaring victory’ in a stunning act of projection. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059/205 "2023-08-26T03:23:42Z")
> [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](#): > > Poor @Iceacid_Frostpacker catching a stray round. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/d/5/bd5fed6185a94471d08cedc39857a7549631dc8c.gif) [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-ccp-stopped-me-from-playing-my-game-style/417059.md?page=11)