# How did we reach the Moon thru the Van Allen Radiation Belt? **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [August 4, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325 "2018-08-04T18:04:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/61 "2018-08-05T08:17:03Z")
> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > I’m fine. I’m just demonstrating why people who deny reality are morons, and the reality is, we went to the moon. Multiple times, for a variety of scientific experiments, and brought back an incredible collection of materials that gave us a greater understanding of the surface and composition of the moon, and hence, the history of our own planet and solar system. > > Be careful not to conflate my mockery of you with ‘being triggered’. I quite enjoy dishing ■■■■ on turd sandwiches who think the government is plotting against everyone and trying to trick people into believing we went to the moon, as if something like that could be faked in the ■■■■■■■ 60s. Yeah, we had digital cameras back then, and the Queen is actually a lizard person. > > Gimme a break, nutjob. Calm down Remiel, now you have me all concerned about your current health. breath deeply and all the tin foil men will disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/62 "2018-08-05T08:17:05Z")
Iodine-129 is primarily formed from the fission of uranium and plutonium in nuclear reactors. Significant amounts were released into the atmosphere as a result of nuclear weapons testing in the 1950s and 1960s. decays with a half-life of 15.7 million years, with low-energy beta and gamma emissions, to xenon-129 That’s how the xenon 129 comes from nuclear reactions. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/63 "2018-08-05T08:18:15Z")
Concern trolling now, are we? Dude, let me know when you have an actual contention to my demonstrations of the reality of the moon landing. If the best you can do is pretending to care for my health as some kind of attempt to get a reaction, then it’s clear you have nothing of value left to offer. ---
**Author:** ![Remiel\_Pollard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remiel_pollard/32/242272_2.png) [@Remiel\_Pollard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remiel_Pollard)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/64 "2018-08-05T08:19:54Z")
You’re actually an idiot, aren’t you. Iodine 129 occurs as naturally as xeon 129. Yes, it can form in nuclear fission, but xeon 129 does not. It is the result of beta decay over 16 million years. We didn’t have nuclear reactors 16 million years ago. I suggest you actually go back to school, and this time, stay there. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/98 "2018-08-05T08:50:50Z")
I could name like 15 world famous people other than Buzz Aldrin that have visited Antarctica since 2013. But hey its the place everyone vacations now right. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/101 "2018-08-05T09:05:14Z")
I love when I read this in there article. Even if NASA had secretly invented computer graphics and kept it from the public, the organization would have had to keep 400,000 employees from spilling the beans, and it would have needed to coordinate the story with dozens of world leaders, including our enemy at the time, Russia. Like every NASA employee is in the control room and knows what is going on. Also the fact Russia is the enemy even for people who lived back then, that narrative has been a drumbeat for a while apparently. Only then at least they had to buy more than 6 networks to play it everwhere. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/102 "2018-08-05T09:21:56Z")
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” Works with wackos, too. BTW, Iodine 129 occurs naturally with the fission of Uranium present in rocks, the impact of cosmic rays on Xenon and the impact of cosmic ray muons on Tellurium 130. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/105 "2018-08-05T09:30:50Z")
Except on Earth Venus and Jupiter Xenon 129 to 132 is a 1 to 1 ratio but on Mars that number is over 2.5 times higher. I enjoy every response having something negative to say about me even though you have never met me and I must be wrong because NASA deems it so. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/108 "2018-08-05T09:34:32Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/e/8ecf5772c3e8aa2a01d0d74a7c5acb4b0b539846.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/109 "2018-08-05T09:34:58Z")
ill call you Bob ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/112 "2018-08-05T09:38:25Z")
Btw a few years ago they found hidden footage which was released as a movie that confirms the whole story, people just tend to ignore it: > **[Operation Avalanche (2016)](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3776826/?ref_=ttnw_hd)** > > Directed by Matt Johnson. With Matt Johnson, Owen Williams, Andrew Appelle, Jared Raab. In 1967, four undercover CIA agents were sent to NASA posing as a documentary film crew. What they discovered led to one of the biggest conspiracies in American... So there it is, real historical footage from the conspirators themselves. 👽 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/117 "2018-08-05T09:50:07Z")
And there’s a range of explanations on why Mars haves more xenon 129. FAI, Mars doesn’t haves plate tectonics and that allows Iodine 129 from primal meteor impacts to stay in the crust for longer and slowly degas the xenon 129 thus produced. On Earth, Iodine 129 is quickly submitted into the mantle and there’s a far lowest ratio of xenon 129 degasing from there. Also, since Mars doesn’t haves a magnetosphere, its surface receives extra radiation and that allows the formation of more Iodine 129 thus more Xenon 129. ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/118 "2018-08-05T09:52:22Z")
You know it’s a fiction movie, do you? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nitshe_razvedka/32/18392_2.png) [@Nitshe\_Razvedka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nitshe_Razvedka)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/119 "2018-08-05T09:53:46Z")
> [@Yiole\_Gionglao](#): > > You know it’s a fiction movie, do you? 🤔 RL sometimes can be stranger than… ( edit : forgot my emoji ) 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/120 "2018-08-05T10:01:26Z")
Of course it is real, people just try to downplay it as “fiction”. (Also let me borrow you this handy tool below.) > **[Steam Community :: :: Sarcasm Detector](https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=804444774)** > > Steam Community: Steam Artwork. /s quantity = off the charts 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Yiole\_Gionglao](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yiole_gionglao/32/516090_2.png) [@Yiole\_Gionglao](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yiole_Gionglao)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/121 "2018-08-05T10:05:29Z")
“Dark side of the Moon” (_Opération Lune_) is a better recognizable piece of sarcasm. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/122 "2018-08-05T10:08:08Z")
I like it better when people have to actually be intelligent enough to recognize it than spoon feed them. It can show the difference between a smart person and someone who just pretends to be one. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Yigal\_Tzadok](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yigal_tzadok/32/84615_2.png) [@Yigal\_Tzadok](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yigal_Tzadok)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/123 "2018-08-05T10:10:50Z")
> [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > how many people would need to stay quiet about such a lie? 1000’s? Tens of 1000’s? You must be really dumb if you actually believe that ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/124 "2018-08-05T10:30:16Z")
> [@Remiel\_Pollard](#): > > They didn’t go through the radiation belts, that’s how. They went around them. They don’t cover the entire planet, they are concentrated. 😏 Maybe they didn’t go around the belt but they found one of them holes, which all belts seem to have?! 🤪 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/5/15c677e6deb3adccf958a596183ba7de7394630b.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 10:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325/125 "2018-08-05T10:43:30Z")
> [@Yigal\_Tzadok](#): > > > [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](#): > > > > how many people would need to stay quiet about such a lie? 1000’s? Tens of 1000’s? > > You must be really dumb if you actually believe that Why do you think he is dumb? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-did-we-reach-the-moon-thru-the-van-allen-radiation-belt/95325.md?page=5)