# How do I protect my wrecks from looters? **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Created:** [September 11, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611 "2017-09-11T19:49:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ptraci](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ptraci/32/18349_2.png) [@Ptraci](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ptraci)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/21 "2017-09-13T11:08:08Z")
> [@Rosov\_Aulmais](#): > > I lived in null and anyone who can scan you down can easily kill your pve ship. Challenge accepted. Come and easily kill my procurer. After all, it’s just sitting there peacefully mining… ---
**Author:** ![Grid\_Dekew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grid_dekew/32/20943_2.png) [@Grid\_Dekew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grid_Dekew)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/22 "2017-09-13T20:37:29Z")
Thanks for ALL of the great advice and comments. It looks like there are a bunch of ways to deal with or avoid the situation. I refit my ship and ran some more missions in Simela but didn’t see the guy or get bothered. I took another look at zkillboards though and noticed he used 4+ billion in implants in the past (many geared to armor repair) so I think I’ll just stick to the rats for now (although it would be sweet to destroy just one of his pricey pods 🤤). ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/23 "2017-09-13T22:39:49Z")
As an addition to what people have here, try using directional scanner before engaging. Some ninjas have an alt or friend ready with a logistic ship incase you over power them. My last ninja had a nestor and domi helping him. Was a nasty surprise let me tell you. But as a general rule, never engage ninjas unless you know what you are doing and you are happy to lose your ship. ---
**Author:** ![yellow\_parasol](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yellow_parasol/32/10455_2.png) [@yellow\_parasol](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/yellow_parasol)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/24 "2017-09-14T13:26:49Z")
i once used a noob char, with noob skills, in a speedfitted ares. he had a noob companion, equally noob skills, doing logistics. the boost one gets from having a logi pilot is gigantic. that’s also when i learned that there’s people deliberately hunting such antagonists in mission hubs. good times. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/25 "2017-09-14T13:42:48Z")
some good advice in here . i’d add : never pvp in your money-maker . always have a combat-fit ship ready in station . insured , armed , ready to undock at one click . use z-killboard [https://zkillboard.com/](https://zkillboard.com/) to see his time active / ships flown / known associates . from that i see he has used an npc corp’d alt in a logi ship in some kills . so fitting for pvp won’t be enough if you want to fight him . you’ll have to be ready to overcome at least 2 … ignoring him or setting cans blue is best advice i’ve seen , but if you fit up a few cheap combat ships maybe you can have some fun … 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Solomar\_Espersei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solomar_espersei/32/174500_2.png) [@Solomar\_Espersei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solomar_Espersei)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/26 "2017-09-20T19:53:15Z")
> [@Chocolate\_Pickle](#): > > I hope this marks the return of Suddenly Ninjas. It doesn’t. Back about 3 years ago, most of the old core group moved on (I was a director for 2 years) as our CEO at the time went AFK. Somehow Leffy ended up in charge and has ran the outfit into the ground for the most part. Most of the older alumni share this opinion sad to say. ---
**Author:** ![Chocolate\_Pickle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chocolate_pickle/32/12219_2.png) [@Chocolate\_Pickle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chocolate_Pickle)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/27 "2017-09-20T21:39:29Z")
That sucks. Where did everyone move on to? ---
**Author:** ![Solomar\_Espersei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solomar_espersei/32/174500_2.png) [@Solomar\_Espersei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solomar_Espersei)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/28 "2017-09-21T17:54:24Z")
Various 1-3 man corps, quit the game, etc. My corp Quality Assurance probably contains the largest collection of SN alumni in one outfit (3 of us were Directors when we left for Bricksquad, then formed Quality Assurance), but most everyone but myself is on EVE break. Some of us still do some baiting from time-to-time, but I’ve mostly moved onto other forms of entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/29 "2017-09-24T01:13:17Z")
they are mission wrecks, who gives a ■■■■? Looting is a complete waste of time unless you are a newb salvaging behind a few ratting supers, and it’s only worthwhile then because you can’t make more isk with your own combat skills. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_Indy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andrew_indy/32/13108_2.png) [@Andrew\_Indy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andrew_Indy)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/30 "2017-09-27T04:22:59Z")
Go grapple instead of a standard Web. They are better in almost every way compared to T2 Webs. Its only when you use a Faction web/boosts do standard webs look better at range. ---
**Author:** ![Solomar\_Espersei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solomar_espersei/32/174500_2.png) [@Solomar\_Espersei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solomar_Espersei)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/31 "2017-10-02T19:08:57Z")
You make a huge point here that is easy to overlook/forget. There was time when loot and salvage **were** worth your time to come back and grab. I know the nerf had a lot to do with gun mining and it was probably in the best interest of the game that it was changed. OTOH, it’s worth pointing out that the end game strategy of ninja salvaging/looting, though it’s mostly a lost art form today, used to be an insanely profitable profession. Mission runners who like nothing more than “leveling up their Ravens” will often bling out their ships to ridiculous degrees. It used to be pretty easy to kill several of these a month and along with ransoms, loot, salvage, valuable tags and contracted mission objectives, it was an easy, sustainable play style. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wrecks-from-looters/23611/32 "2017-12-31T19:09:02Z")
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