# How do I recover from negative 33 million ISK as a newbie alpha clone? **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [May 21, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487 "2018-05-21T01:04:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/21 "2018-05-21T19:35:13Z")
Customs Offices are PI Orbital Platforms used to export items from the planet, their service fee is paid as Tax. Customs Officers are NPC ships at Jumpgates. All they do is scan ships for Contraband. There’s various Legality Repercussions when your ship is tagged - contraband confiscated, ISK fine imposed and or loss of Faction Standing. ---
**Author:** ![Sakuya\_jigoku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sakuya_jigoku/32/73654_2.png) [@Sakuya\_jigoku](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sakuya_jigoku)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/22 "2018-05-22T02:11:35Z")
I sent you 33 million so you don’t have to deal with the struggle double check every item you pick up make sure you’re not carrying any contraband another thing another way to get a negative balance is buying isk through rmt let’s say You buy 50 billion CCP will take a 100 billion away from you so you’ll get a 50 billion debt and a ban for one week I think for your first offense ---
**Author:** ![Nikoljo\_Aivoras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nikoljo_aivoras/32/49271_2.png) [@Nikoljo\_Aivoras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nikoljo_Aivoras)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/23 "2018-05-22T02:29:52Z")
Thanks man. Still find it baffling how some people have enough cash to sort of just throw it around like that. ---
**Author:** ![Jenne\_Wain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenne_wain/32/71483_2.png) [@Jenne\_Wain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenne_Wain)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/24 "2018-05-22T02:39:13Z")
Give it time, you’ll get there. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sakuya\_jigoku](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sakuya_jigoku/32/73654_2.png) [@Sakuya\_jigoku](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sakuya_jigoku)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/25 "2018-05-22T02:40:52Z")
with my main character I make 500 million every 3 hours mining in a capital Industrial on a good day I also do ratting in a vni make 8m to 21m in 20mins ---
**Author:** ![Votineque](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/votineque/32/380137_2.png) [@Votineque](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Votineque)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/26 "2018-05-22T03:40:51Z")
The quick fix is spend $5-10. and buy some Plex to sell. ---
**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/27 "2018-05-22T06:41:22Z")
@Nikoljo_Aivoras thats easy … start running sites in a cheap ship … i hope you have one if not you allways can join a corp … tell the ceo or recruiter your problem . if they let you join anyways they usually can help you with a cheap corp ship you can use now and pay later you can join them in missions and get a part of the work and a part of the isk hope it helps … if not … contact me if you want JuuR ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/28 "2018-05-22T13:39:54Z")
> [@Jenne\_Wain](#): > > Just one thing to add- try Project Discovery. If you like it and are decent at it, you can make that in a couple of hours. > > Not suggesting to _not_ do the other things as well, but PD can be a good way to get some seed money relatively quickly if you are a new player. This is probably the safest and easiest way to repair the wallet deficit. ---
**Author:** ![Boldly\_Gone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boldly_gone/32/274259_2.png) [@Boldly\_Gone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Boldly_Gone)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/29 "2018-05-22T16:32:21Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > Go to Jita, beg a few hours That was my first thought, too 🙂 Or tell your story here 😜 Or you just fly into lowsec in a cheap ship to do some ratting and wait to be killed by solo players, and start chatting politely, ask for tricks and so on - it’s not unlikely to earn that amount of ISK that way, especially when your toon is very young. Or just the dull solution: Buy Plex via CCP and sell some for ISK. ---
**Author:** ![Bellelba\_Quinn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bellelba_quinn/32/141349_2.png) [@Bellelba\_Quinn](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bellelba_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/30 "2018-05-23T04:56:35Z")
your post is amazing thank you for your insight on factional warfare and exploration ---
**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2018, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/31 "2018-05-23T07:23:45Z")
good idea is project discovery … you get some stuff … you get skins … you get isk … i made 1.5 mill per peayout so you should have it in a few hours … JuuR ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-i-recover-from-negative-33-million-isk-as-a-newbie-alpha-clone/77487/32 "2018-08-21T07:23:46Z")
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