# How do you define ganking, pvp and trolling **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 5, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827 "2024-03-05T00:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/364 "2024-03-20T01:51:33Z")
> [@milkyway\_miner](#): > > wow but you do realize that in a 1.0 concord shows up Yes it was flashy yellow , so the gankers looter It just shows what length they will go to discredit me 🤭 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/365 "2024-03-20T01:56:40Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > It just shows what length they will go to discredit me ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/8/0/880100d4817e8a7cd5a1e2a9524062bf47aaad91.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/366 "2024-03-20T02:00:12Z")
Spot on with the gif ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/367 "2024-03-20T02:07:45Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > anyone who has been killed was a ganker alt or kill right. Or even flashy red . All crimes That’s actually not true. > **[Rion Bancroft | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/2118228894/)** > > Rion Bancroft: 0 ships destroyed and 2 ships lost. SAY HIS NAME. You murdered newbro Rion Bancroft, and he quit the game because of you. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/368 "2024-03-20T02:25:38Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > murdered newbro Rion Bancroft, and he quit the game I guess the game wasn’t for him. Hot-footed his way back to WoW probably. Just couldn’t handle the PvP 💁‍♀️ ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/369 "2024-03-20T02:37:19Z")
He couldn’t. He was just a newbro little miner, even the gankers felt sorry for him and wouldn’t kill him, so Githany hired mercenaries to come MURDER him. The most innocent little new player imaginable, and Githany killed him out of sheer jealousy. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/370 "2024-03-20T02:49:44Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > He was just a newbro little miner Fresh meat 🙂 > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > even the gankers felt sorry for him and wouldn’t kill him I knew that gankers were good people all along and it’s the miners who are ebil, always concocting some suspicious anti-gank propaganda aimed at demonizing a whole playstyle. Tsk-tsk… > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Githany hired mercenaries to come MURDER him Mercenaries need to eat too. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > The most innocent little new player imaginable No one’s innocent. Plus he undocked so he consented to being murdered by mercenaries. Also, according to CCP metrics, Mr. Bancroft shouldn’t have quit the game but taken up the challenges that EvE has to offer. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Githany killed him out of sheer jealousy. That may be, but the reasons aren’t important. What _is_ important is the colorful conflagration his ship made in space. I bet it was a wonderful sight to behold. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/371 "2024-03-20T02:52:51Z")
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t feel bad for poor pathetic weak Rion. I would have killed him myself, if he wasn’t so small and measly. I’m just pointing out the utter hypocrisy of the antiganking community. Here was a miner that even the gankers weren’t ganking, so they killed him with a pair of bling Catalysts, and why? They were jealous Rion had friends and social skills. The antigankers couldn’t stand that a miner was happy, and preferred the company of gankers. Antigankers don’t care about new players at all, it’s just virtue-signal whitewashing. As a subject matter expert, I can testify that we never see the antigankers out there protecting newbro Ventures. However, we have watched them grief newbros, and Rion is just one of many. ![7.30c](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/3/f235f8b7de447a4b04a3a27711971df49d0ac4e3.png) ![4.13l](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/1/a/81acb5a051fa68024d6c9570b5709c2b6434df27.png) I actually wrote several blog posts about this, here’s one: [https://www.james315.space/2022/02/21/antiganking-cowards/](https://www.james315.space/2022/02/21/antiganking-cowards/) When have you ever seen an antiganker save a single Venture? Not once, ever. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/372 "2024-03-20T03:06:23Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Antigankers don’t care about new players at all, it’s just virtue-signal whitewashing I can easily believe that, just as I believe that players in general caring about newbros is fiction, only giving lip service to the NPE but never actually spending time to mentor a new player ( and those who have done it, I personally salute you o7 ) even one in their own corporation. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > As a subject matter expert, I can testify that we never see the antigankers out there protecting newbro Ventures And why should they? I wouldn’t do it. They undocked so they can take their responsibilities. I personally think that any anti-ganking is a waste of time. If I could successfully anti-gank then I don’t see why I wouldn’t be ganking. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > When have you ever seen an antiganker save a single Venture? Never. But then again, I do not have many months in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/373 "2024-03-20T03:09:55Z")
> [@Yuzima](#): > > If I could successfully anti-gank then I don’t see why I wouldn’t be ganking. Indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/374 "2024-03-20T03:20:45Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > And for the record anyone who has been killed was a ganker alt or kill right. Or even flashy red . All crimes Do you have a screen shot? I mean, sure there is a record for the kill rights, but what about those that were “flashy red?” How do I know you didn’t…… Okay, I can’t do this with a straight face. Nevermind. Nothing to see here. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/375 "2024-03-20T03:41:38Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > for the record anyone who has been killed was a ganker alt or kill right. Or even flashy red . All crimes There are _crimes_ in EvE? Also, why the need for justification? Isn’t reason enough that they undocked? ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/376 "2024-03-20T03:57:04Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Not once, ever Usually because it’s either too late or not worth the effort. I have been ganked in the middle of an ice fleet before and nobody cared, even though they probably could’ve stopped it. Eh, doesn’t matter now, there’s a reason why I prefer the t2 mining frigates to the barges, and it’s primarily cost. So, doesn’t matter, but man does it suck being somewhat new and asking for someone to save you and no one does. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/377 "2024-03-20T03:57:46Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > not worth the effort. There you go. > [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > nobody cared Correct. > [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I prefer the t2 mining frigates I recommend the t2 destroyer. ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/378 "2024-03-20T04:00:25Z")
Listen man, I’m trying to be more cordial because A) I don’t like having people hold grudges against me when I don’t have a major problem with them and B) I’ve grown very attached to my little fleet of haulers. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/379 "2024-03-20T04:02:58Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I’ve grown very attached to my little fleet of haulers. I’m your best friend, friend. ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/380 "2024-03-20T04:04:13Z")
For some reason, I doubt that. But, not like I can convince you to not shoot me, so I probably shouldn’t worry too much about it ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/381 "2024-03-20T04:04:59Z")
You have no reason to worry! ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/382 "2024-03-20T04:23:44Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I have been ganked in the middle of an ice fleet before and nobody cared, even though they probably could’ve stopped it Were you in your corporation fleet or just a fleet full of strangers? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/383 "2024-03-20T11:18:49Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > The most innocent little new player imaginable, and Githany killed him out of sheer jealousy. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/c/b/5cb51001456f34aad8d00938c6670884a762fa47.webp) > [@Yuzima](#): > > Mercenaries need to eat too. Seal Clubbers [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=20)