# How do you define ganking, pvp and trolling **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 5, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827 "2024-03-05T00:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/384 "2024-03-20T11:33:44Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Seal Clubbers Seal meat is a delicacy and their fur is the softest in the business. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/385 "2024-03-20T11:40:17Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > ) I’ve grown very attached to my little fleet of haulers. Easily rectified, bring them to **Uedema**. Make sure to fill them with **goodies** or the cure won’t work. ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/386 "2024-03-20T11:53:43Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > bring them to **Uedema**. Unfortunately for you and your killboard, I’m not a complete moron, unlike a lot of the people who keep whining about ganking, and I do my best to get through Uedama about as fast as possible while still paying attention. (Forgot to add, I usually tank my freighters out as much as possible) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/387 "2024-03-20T12:13:46Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You have no reason to worry! > [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I usually tank my freighters out as much as possible What a waste of cargo space. * * * For safe passage, best to notify @Aiko_Danuja in advance. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/388 "2024-03-20T12:20:12Z")
Exactly, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/389 "2024-03-20T12:23:09Z")
It’s funny because I actually brought my alt through Uedema in a t2 caldari hauler with massive resists and active tank, and they agressed with 40 guys and all died to concord before my alt did, it was wonderful. Little did they know my alt had full high grade crystals. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/390 "2024-03-20T12:24:08Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > Exactly, thank you. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/5/6/a5646ee62601ee07e259081309ddb8696b58fbf6.gif) > [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > with massive resists and active tank > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > ur a pleb ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/391 "2024-03-20T12:25:17Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > What a waste of cargo space. Well, I’m glad you hold the same opinion. Maybe you could tell your buddies to not shoot me the second they realize I have some shinies on me, and I’ll let you and Aiko wail on my freighter a little. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/392 "2024-03-20T12:28:49Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I have been ganked in the middle of an ice fleet before and nobody cared, even though they probably could’ve stopped it > [@Yuzima](#): > > Were you in your corporation fleet or just a fleet full of strangers? I guess I’m going to assume that you were in fleet not of your corporation. In that case I don’t see why they should’ve helped you. If I had been in that fleet and saw your ship blow up I would’ve went: ♪ Another One Bites The Dust ♫ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/393 "2024-03-20T12:30:11Z")
Honestly, I was still pretty new to the game at that point and was still pretty naïve. Nowadays I realize that nobody _should_ help me, unless they’re in my corp. Even then I wouldn’t blame them for trying to escape. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/394 "2024-03-20T12:34:23Z")
To escape a bear, you don’t have to outrun the bear, just your friend ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/395 "2024-03-20T12:36:38Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > Nowadays I realize that nobody _should_ help me, unless they’re in my corp. Even then I wouldn’t blame them for trying to escape. I understand how you felt when they didn’t help but it’s a good lesson. @Aiko_Danuja is right when she said “No one cares” because it is immensely obvious that we don’t… maybe I shouldn’t speak for the others. **I don’t care one way or the other** I’m just here for a game, not to play Mother Theresa. ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/396 "2024-03-20T12:41:01Z")
> [@Yuzima](#): > > it’s a good lesson. Indeed, I feel like I’m definitely a better player for realizing that I should be responsible for me. I also feel like I don’t put out as much salt as most, but also I haven’t been ganked recently. I _did_ see a bowhead get dropped by like 30 stealth bombers. It’s a shame I was already warping by the time I saw them, would’ve brightened up that little hauling trip a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/397 "2024-03-20T12:42:00Z")
> [@Yuzima](#): > > Mother Theresa # Like Githany Red, Mother Teresa Was No Saint … her problematic legacy, which includes [forced conversion](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/25/why-to-many-critics-mother-teresa-is-still-no-saint/), questionable relations with dictators, gross mismanagement, and actually, pretty bad medical care. Worst of all, she was the quintessential white person expending her charity on the third world…a study found that hardly anyone who came seeking medical care found it there. Doctors observed unhygienic, “even unfit,” conditions, inadequate food, and no painkillers – not for lack of funding. ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/398 "2024-03-20T12:49:59Z")
I distrust people who advertise themselves as saints. Generally they’re so self adsorbed that they could power a Trig ship. ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/399 "2024-03-20T13:48:03Z")
I don’t know if she pretended or not and, again, I don’t care. Also, it’s easy to bring up dirt on someone who can’t defend themselves because they’re **dead**. It happens often these days, pooping on someone’s grave. They did it with Sean Connery, Serge Gainsbourg, John Kennedy and the list goes on. > [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I distrust people who advertise themselves as saints She didn’t “advertise” herself as a saint. The Church made her a saint after her death. Anywhooo… Back on topic. How do I define Ganking, PvP and Trolling? I don’t. I don’t have to, all I have to do is understand the game, gain more knowledge and then act on that. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/400 "2024-03-20T15:16:43Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > Nowadays I realize that nobody _should_ help me, unless they’re in my corp. Even then I wouldn’t blame them for trying In the past we would have helped as we did many pilots , we saved some massive cargo loads and some payed us well . So eve is not always as dark as it first appears . > [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > , I’m not a complete moron, unlike a lot of the people who keep whining about ganking, and I do my best to get through Just be careful how you chat to these people , words like “I’m not a complete moron” are like a red flag to a bull if you get my meaning ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/401 "2024-03-20T15:19:12Z")
What’s that got to do with me ---
**Author:** ![Yuzima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yuzima/32/416395_2.png) [@Yuzima](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yuzima)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/402 "2024-03-20T15:23:37Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > What’s that got to do with me? Gankers seem to think you’re a saint 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/403 "2024-03-20T15:25:25Z")
> [@Yuzima](#): > > Gankers seem to think you’re a saint Saint Githany _does_ have a good ring to it, I will admit [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=21)