# How do you define ganking, pvp and trolling

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 5, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827 "2024-03-05T00:04:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/485 "2024-03-28T13:14:39Z")

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Well , you don’t speak for them, particularly @Githany_Red. She does not need a **toothless old vamp** to speak up for her.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/e/deec301ff860a7a7b42c9892685dc1dedb6c63e0.gif)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/486 "2024-03-28T13:17:14Z")

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Githany does not AG based on this:

> [@James\_Fuchs](#):
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> you’re self-inserting your personal sense of self and morality into an online game character

Damn certain of that.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/487 "2024-03-28T13:27:02Z")

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It’s hilarious the level of cognitive dissonance from Dracvlad, when 90% of all threads and posts here regarding ganking contain the ‘moral’ approach and rattle on about ‘ebil gankers’ and the plight of poor ‘victims’. As if half a dozen people who roleplay ‘anti ganking’ for fun somehow counter the deluge of whiny ‘moral’ posts.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/488 "2024-03-28T17:19:07Z")

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Whiny moral post you say . It’s funny how you try to make out that we are some do gooders trying to save this and that.

In reality I just don’t want to be a pirate I don’t want to kill players with out any point to it .

I often think gankers types justifies their actions by saying it’s eve this is how you are ment to play it what’s wrong with you whining and going on .

We can play it how ever we want not just the gankers way and I see so many people suck up to this side of play for fear of kicking the hornets nest .

I’m happy that this game can be played any way , the only reason gankers go on about ag is because they see us as a threat to there game play

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> It’s hilarious the level of cognitive dissonance from Dracvlad, when 90% of all threads and posts here regarding ganking contain the ‘moral’ approach

Again you doing it here Dracvlad makes a post and you pull out one part that’s a moral point

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**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/489 "2024-03-28T18:13:11Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Because high sec suicide ganking for the most part is evil

I mean, I don’t know how else to break it to you. You see the quote, right?

With baffled regards  
-James Fuchs

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/490 "2024-03-28T18:16:23Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> they see us as a threat to there game play

Sweetie - you’re going to look so good bound and gagged in my catalyst.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/d/f/5df8744d4192f0821b1cefd465cfc8d80ee5e187.gif)

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/491 "2024-03-28T18:17:56Z")

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I have Altara Zemara blocked for her posts on the recent war dec thread, due to stupid bait posts that aim to insult the person they reply to but not at a level to be picked up on by the moderators. Can’t be bothered with that trash.

Notice that I said AG players and named them, and Altara switches that to “posts regarding ganking” That is why I decided to block this person, it is troll dishonesty, moving the goal posts, there is cognitive dissonance but it belongs to Altara.

> [@James\_Fuchs](#):
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> > [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> > Because high sec suicide ganking for the most part is evil
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> I mean, I don’t know how else to break it to you. You see the quote, right?
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> With baffled regards  
> -James Fuchs

So someone using evil to describe a criminal act of blowing up ships for profit and laughs is imposing their morals on gankers.

With even more baffled regards

Dracvlad

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/492 "2024-03-28T18:19:45Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> but not at a level to be picked up on by the moderators.

In other words she is smarter than the mods?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/493 "2024-03-28T18:20:39Z")

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Are you insulting the mods, nasty…

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/494 "2024-03-28T18:20:59Z")

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Actually you are; very silly of you @Dracvlad , they have wooden stakes.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/495 "2024-03-28T18:24:10Z")

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Not at all, you just did, I didn’t because a mod has to make a decision on grey areas and they will let the grey ones go, which is why you often see the people reacting to them get walloped and not the bait post, I have moderated forums, so seen it all. Which is why I find this forum gloriously funny…

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**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/496 "2024-03-28T18:27:52Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> _Cognitive dissonance_

Oh well, not my problem.

With fine regards  
-James Fuchs

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/497 "2024-03-28T18:27:55Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I have moderated forums

Zaera is smarter than a mod - **Awesome**!!!

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/498 "2024-03-28T18:32:54Z")

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> [@James\_Fuchs](#):
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> Oh well, not my problem.

It appears to be your problem, your prognosis of applying a moral attitude on players opposing ganking is complete and utter trash, weak sauce is weak sauce. Calling me names because I pointed out that not one of the people I have AG’d with think that way, makes me laugh.

> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> Zaera is smarter than a mod - **Awesome**!!!

Does not make any sense, but then again when do most gankers on this forum make much sense, but I do appreciate your GIF’s, I will go look at that mud one again.

And I liked this one a lot:

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/e/deec301ff860a7a7b42c9892685dc1dedb6c63e0.gif)

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/499 "2024-03-28T19:21:58Z")

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> [@James\_Fuchs](#):
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> I mean, I don’t know how else to break it to you. You see the quote, right?

And yes I was quoting someone who said evil gankers 🙄

Is that the best you can do hehe

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/500 "2024-03-28T19:55:07Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> And I liked this one a lot:
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> ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/e/e/deec301ff860a7a7b42c9892685dc1dedb6c63e0.gif)

In a way Dracvlad this is the gankers down to a tee , the shadow is their true self and the image is what they try to project to everyone else.🤫 Take this incursion debacle that’s Hawk and Jason perfectly , pictures can paint a thousand words

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I have Altara Zemara blocked for her posts on the recent war dec thread, due to stupid bait posts

Honestly she baffles me sometimes , on the whole I enjoy her post ,then she holds the gankers flag high and waves it frantically.  
Maybe trying to justify her position to herself as she is a ganker and a mass war Dec support as she often tells us .

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/501 "2024-03-28T20:05:46Z")

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That made me laugh, your analysis of the picture, well played indeed…

Ah, so it could be that having allies able to rep the defenders and other allies would be super scary for her and her alliance, gotcha…, still not sure why this person decided to ask me if I knew what an alliance was when I was talking about being able to rep other allies and the defender in the war. I will keep her blocked, I am not losing anything, seems like a poor mans imitation of Destiny.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/502 "2024-03-28T20:07:20Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> And yes I was quoting someone who said evil gankers 🙄

And that makes it even funnier, hilarious!!!

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/503 "2024-03-28T20:19:03Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I will keep her blocked, I am not losing anything, seems like a poor mans imitation of Destiny.

I know but we can only ever aspire to be a poor man’s Destiny, all of us 😉

I bet it’s goes all quiet now , it’s what they do when they … Well you know.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/504 "2024-03-28T20:32:58Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> it’s what they do when they

When they do what sweetie?

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