# How do you define ganking, pvp and trolling **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 5, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827 "2024-03-05T00:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/505 "2024-03-28T20:50:26Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > We had a way of marking this on the overview Yah, u duct-taped a notepad to your monitor and called it a “trick”. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/506 "2024-03-31T21:39:29Z")
Without high sec ganking, high sec wouldn’t be profitable for actual players, and would be completely under the grip of bots, since only bots could generate a marginable income in a field of indefinite competition (indefinite since they can’t be killed). You should be glad ganking exists if you live in High Sec, the economy depends on it. That is why people who complain about ganking are titled “Bot Aspirants,” because that is what they seek with the removal of ganking (or making a gank generally impracticable). They seek to colonize HighSec with bots, and do war against each other with illegal coding (to out perform other bots and out-evade others in being banned), rather than with in-game weaponry. EDIT: I see that my queen has spoken above me. Forgive me for my insolence, for I was blinded by Your Opulence. All Hail Queen @Aiko_Danuja , Savior of Highsec, Heir to the Legacy of King James. For the Glory is Hers, and Hers Alone! ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/507 "2024-03-31T23:36:18Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > Without high sec ganking, high sec wouldn’t be profitable for actual players, and would be completely under the grip of bots, since only bots could generate a marginable income in a field of indefinite competition (indefinite since they can’t be killed). > > You should be glad ganking exists if you live in High Sec, the economy depends on it. > > That is why people who complain about ganking are titled “Bot Aspirants,” because that is what they seek with the removal of ganking (or making a gank generally impracticable). They seek to colonize HighSec with bots, and do war against each othe do you high sec gank ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/508 "2024-03-31T23:36:57Z")
I get ganked from time to time. But I haven’t ganked myself in a years. Overall, I’ve learned how to travel safely in high/low and null (low sec always being the most dangerous). Furthermore, the High Sec economy affects the economy of Null Sec far than Null affects High. So even though I mostly play in null sec, it the High Sec Gankers that I have to thank for the stability of the Null Sec economy. If is your failure to see the dynamic and symbiotic nature of EvE Online, from Jita to the edge of the Galaxy in -1.0 systems (and wormholes) that makes you unqualified to call for such changes. The removal of ganking in High Sec destroys us all, even in wormholes. EDIT: And of course, I bought a Mining Permit in 2022, followed the rules, and haven’t been ganked since. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/9/e/b9e7857b6dc24c4451d90dfec1522971fc95d8a7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/509 "2024-03-31T23:56:59Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > And of course, I bought a Mining Permit in 2022, followed the rules, and haven’t been ganked since. It’s so important to set a good example, Saladinae. I’m sometimes disparaged in Local, but I sport my Permit with pride: ![2024-04-01_00-52-39](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/6/8/f68c00471e3c717f331c0d2112d6b6ae80c5a1f0.png) ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/510 "2024-04-01T00:11:05Z")
are you crazy anyone in their right mind would not pay Akio jack ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/511 "2024-04-01T00:18:36Z")
I do not pay tithes to my queen. I serve my Queen. I think another adoring gift of 100 catalysts is in order. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/512 "2024-04-01T00:24:33Z")
Your queen that you speak of actually gave me a like therefore I will request that frosty sends 100 fitted cats as well before maintenance/ restart today! /okay frosty just confirmed that he has them in stock already so it might just need freighting to a system where he knows where she will be tomorrow ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/513 "2024-04-01T00:28:17Z")
How could I forget. I too must fit them. Hulls alone would be insult to her Majesty. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/514 "2024-04-01T00:29:28Z")
No don’t fit them just kit all the components together. Don’t do that work for her. ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/515 "2024-04-01T00:32:46Z")
In all realness for a moment. It was sending her 100 fitted catalysts in 2022 where I learned about the mass assemble tool. You learn something every day! ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/516 "2024-04-01T00:45:27Z")
Yes and frosty asks me to ask you are you sending 100x T2 fittings or T1? ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/517 "2024-04-01T00:48:10Z")
Perhaps he is actually the one who should not be named? ---
**Author:** ![Saladinae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saladinae/32/415712_2.png) [@Saladinae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saladinae)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/518 "2024-04-01T01:12:24Z")
Best Named Neutron Blasters. Using tier 2 is not cost effective for ganks, since it greatly increases the ship cost for a non-linear gain in performance. Also, just a pinch of faction ammo (enough to last til concord), bring them near to tier 2 void, while not saccing the range. ---
**Author:** ![Felix\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/felix_frostpacker/32/420339_2.png) [@Felix\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Felix_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/519 "2024-04-01T01:53:27Z")
So T1 fit confirmed 👍🏻 thanks for clarifying. @Saladinae your response saved frosty a stack of isk @Aiko_Danuja ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/520 "2024-04-01T02:29:30Z")
> [@Saladinae](#): > > All Hail Queen @Aiko_Danuja She is a **Princess** sweetie, I’m a queen though, the **Queen of Tears** , they taste **Delicious** ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/2/d/e2da6f6f673566f5acd125631cb5ca7ad805e1e8.gif) ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/521 "2024-04-01T02:35:05Z")
youre not a queen youre a crazy old person obsessed with vampires and gifs (no offense) ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/522 "2024-04-01T02:35:44Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > I sport my Permit with pride: * * * 👌 > [@milkyway\_miner](#): > > youre a crazy Calm down miner ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/524 "2024-04-01T02:41:06Z")
I am calm why do you think I added no offense ---
**Author:** ![James\_Fuchs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/james_fuchs/32/504955_2.png) [@James\_Fuchs](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/James_Fuchs)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2024, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/525 "2024-04-01T07:54:44Z")
You are not calm. (no offense) With diplomatic regards -James Fuchs [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=27)