# How do you define ganking, pvp and trolling **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 5, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827 "2024-03-05T00:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Cloe\_Farseer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cloe_farseer/32/420828_2.png) [@Cloe\_Farseer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cloe_Farseer)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/688 "2024-06-02T18:12:12Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > she is locked up in in a federal penitentiary @Ax_l_Thorne is a she?? She’s ugly then. And I hear fed pen for girls is more like a country club. She’s living it up on the backs of Gallente citizens. Caldari corruption runs deeper than I imagined. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/689 "2024-06-02T18:18:10Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Minmatar trash space is the worst It stinks! They never put on cologne and don’t wash with soap. But you Amarrians already know that. I can’t believe you allow that trash to serve you. They’re only good for dyin’ ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/690 "2024-06-02T18:40:50Z")
Most Minnmatar wash once an year whether they need to or not. Smelling good is actually dangerous. In vietnam they could smell the american’s soap miles away. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/691 "2024-06-02T18:58:17Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Most Minnmatar wash once an year whether they need to or not You wanna make me barf too, don’t you. I can’t decide which one is worse, the traitors or the trash of the cluster… has to be the traitors. At least Minmatar can be taught to wash. > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Smelling good is actually dangerous That’s no lie. > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > In vietnam Please don’t remind me of that butchery! ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Flapper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_flapper/32/468293_2.png) [@Lily\_Flapper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Flapper)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/692 "2024-06-02T21:32:02Z")
Minmatar men smell like original brut cologne after spending the day at the beach on some Temperate Planet. 🏖 ⛏ 🏊‍♂️ ❄ ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/693 "2024-06-02T21:38:53Z")
> [@Lily\_Flapper](#): > > Minmatar men smell like original brut cologne You ought to have your olfaction checked. I know a great clinic in Luminaire. ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Flapper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_flapper/32/468293_2.png) [@Lily\_Flapper](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Flapper)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/694 "2024-06-02T21:49:05Z")
![Luminaire](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/9/e/e9ef64069fb0fb795f4d5b8948fb12f80b674f1b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Harmonia\_Blissel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harmonia_blissel/32/420943_2.png) [@Harmonia\_Blissel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harmonia_Blissel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/695 "2024-06-02T21:53:53Z")
Yes, there’s a lab there. Good station, great people. ---
**Author:** ![Cloe\_Farseer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cloe_farseer/32/420828_2.png) [@Cloe\_Farseer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cloe_Farseer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/696 "2024-06-03T15:40:56Z")
> [@Harmonia\_Blissel](#): > > there’s a lab there Duvolle Laboratories 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/697 "2024-06-03T16:51:19Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > > > everyone is a winner > > And on top of that many of them are whiners too Oh am I a winner too ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/698 "2024-06-03T17:21:42Z")
Yes sweetie, you won the boobie prize. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/9/2/69217fbe887ad62549d8a8d19e07b1037b69a713.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/699 "2024-06-03T18:43:13Z")
Again ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/700 "2024-06-15T04:16:12Z")
It was a combination of trolling and then ganking that got our FC to talk some idiot into flying 15 min back and forth to Amarr to fight an unarmed ship that he scanned to make sure, but our FC was very careful to word the conversation that led up to that and not to imply he would be alone. 😉 Anger caused his loss. EVE = Everyone Vs Everyone. What doesn’t everyone get? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/701 "2024-06-15T04:37:54Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > EVE = Everyone Vs Everyone. What doesn’t everyone get? Have you asked the game if that is what it identifies as? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/702 "2024-06-15T06:47:39Z")
No need, just look at zkillboard. We can also see, from a quick glance, that @Ax_l_Thorne is a homopathic 12 year old girl that likes blowing up pixelated spaceships. ---
**Author:** ![Placeholder\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/placeholder_platypus/32/373989_2.png) [@Placeholder\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Placeholder_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/703 "2024-06-15T13:58:52Z")
Any attack on non-pvp ships (ratting ships included, because they are useless in pvp) is ganking. Ganking is not pvp, it’s a pve with a spectator, because only 1 player’s action affect the outcome. If it so happens that you fail a gank, it’s because you suck terribly, managing to lose from a completely commanding position, it’s a self-destruct, and its not the other guy’s fault. MESS trolling is not pvp, it’s a random douchery looking for undeserved ISK and kills. Filament roaming is not pvp, it’s random douchery looking for undeserved ISK and kills. Red vs Blue is pvp. FW is pvp. Sov timers when both sides commit is pvp. pretty much everything else isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/704 "2024-06-15T14:17:02Z")
> [@Placeholder\_Platypus](#): > > because you suck terribly Actually no, if you walk into an ambush, it is you who sucks as too dumb to avoid it. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/8/5/08527fdf3befc5dcb620cc79ff92a6120b955689.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Placeholder\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/placeholder_platypus/32/373989_2.png) [@Placeholder\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Placeholder_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/705 "2024-06-15T14:26:36Z")
I assume this is a misunderstanding, because we meant exactly the same thing. There is no way to set up a decent ambush that won’t be near-obvious, so walking into it is indeed dumb, and counts as a failed gank. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/706 "2024-06-15T18:37:36Z")
Make sure to play the game before you theorycraft. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/707 "2024-06-15T19:00:41Z")
> [@Placeholder\_Platypus](#): > > There is no way to set up a decent ambush that won’t be near-obvious, We excel in ambushing silly gankers , loot thieves and alpha gankers , you have to be careful as salt levels can be high . Your right it takes planning . Let me know if you want me to list a few . In fact we are planning one as I type this [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=34) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=36)