# How do you define ganking, pvp and trolling **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 5, 2024, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827 "2024-03-05T00:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/122 "2024-03-06T02:12:40Z")
I’d argue ganking is griefing if it’s just for shits and giggles. However, I don’t think most gankers do it for shits and giggles. There is a strong profit incentive, which makes it a career just as any other. It’s a career that has a lot of salt involved, so much so that I’m surprised people aren’t going through a keyboard a month, but it’s a career nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/123 "2024-03-06T02:21:59Z")
but why exactly is it griefing if it is for fun? it is not to make someone sad, which would be actual griefing imo ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/124 "2024-03-06T02:22:59Z")
Most people who grief do it because they’re bored and they’re unwilling to play the game as intended. Or out of sheer spite. ---
**Author:** ![Nasty\_Shrimp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nasty_shrimp/32/413217_2.png) [@Nasty\_Shrimp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nasty_Shrimp)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/125 "2024-03-06T02:24:09Z")
how is a sandbox intended to be played in your oppinion? ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/126 "2024-03-06T02:26:23Z")
However you want. Sure, I don’t like gankers, but that’s because I find them to be very self adsorbed. At the end of the day, I couldn’t care less what happens to internet spaceships, sure it sucks, but it’s not like you can’t just grind up to get a new ship. There’s a reason one of the biggest rules in EVE is don’t fly it if you can’t afford to replace it. It’s a sandbox, not a linear game. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/127 "2024-03-06T03:13:52Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I don’t like gankers We don’t like you, hun. ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/128 "2024-03-06T03:32:09Z")
we all take pride in diffrent things I guess ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/129 "2024-03-06T03:34:41Z")
I son’t like gankers to but not just beacuse they are self abosbed theyre just annoying poeple now I don’t think all gankers are trying to be annoying but some cetian poeple on this forum ovibiously are ps I do not think all gankers are self absorbed ---
**Author:** ![milkyway\_miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/milkyway_miner/32/413091_2.png) [@milkyway\_miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/milkyway_miner)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/130 "2024-03-06T03:46:30Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > ganked (actually in Lowsec, so not strictly a gank) not long after starting the game, and found persanlly I don’t find it extincting geting ganked but whatever makes you happy ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/131 "2024-03-06T03:56:54Z")
> [@milkyway\_miner](#): > > persanlly I don’t find it extincting geting ganked Your killboard indicates you love dying. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/132 "2024-03-06T05:00:06Z")
I’m not a ganker, but when I kill other players, I’m doing it for the sole purpose of experiencing massive enjoyment from their suffering. I’m doing it purely for my entertainment; they exist only to fulfill my desires. And when they lose their ships, I derive nearly sexual pleasure from the grief and anger they experience. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/133 "2024-03-06T06:05:48Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I couldn’t care less what happens to internet spaceships > [@milkyway\_miner](#): > > persanlly I don’t find it extincting geting ganked Oh, but you do !!! ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/b/f/3bfb07c748bf890b1e685501100c7dfd0e4b917b.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/134 "2024-03-06T07:34:51Z")
> [@Nasty\_Shrimp](#): > > i actually hope there will be no gankers in this thread, they would just grief the heck out of it, like they always do, with everything. they ruin my experience So your here again with the same story , well I’m not a ganker and as someone said we have plenty of notice and warning about being ganked be it in high sec , low sec and null. If people bother it looks and use tools available. As you call it being ganked is just being killed and many just try and cover up their own failings by saying oh I was ganked, if your a gank victim it really means you failed in some way . I remember my time in low security space , in them days the insult was blob, oh you guys don’t play fair, you bring a blob. What they are in fact saying , they got out maneuvered , out scouted , and out played . They lost and try to play it down just as gank victims say oh I was ganked , eve is like no other game where real loss is a thing , you either learn from a loss or wine on the forums to get the game changed because you suck at the game. Eve is working as intended… (Ps I know you don’t know me and may say I’m a ganker alt but many here can vouch as to my anti-gank standing .) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/135 "2024-03-06T07:43:40Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I’m a ganker alt So you admit it… ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/136 "2024-03-06T07:53:33Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > So you admit it… Nice edit Btw this is how you get gankers to not answer a post , not by forum baiting them , even Aiko could only say the minimum because see can’t help her self and would never agree with an anti-pirate 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Calamity\_Unleashed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/calamity_unleashed/32/413414_2.png) [@Calamity\_Unleashed](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Calamity_Unleashed)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/137 "2024-03-06T12:47:46Z")
All ganking is PvP but not all PvP is ganking. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/138 "2024-03-06T13:04:43Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > well I’m not a ganker ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/a/f2ae7a1df2037d6f7c0c83a65dbbba896b9b0f9a.jpeg) Pull the other one, has bells on it. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > many here can vouch as to my anti-gank standing They are also ganker alts Now what do the New Eden Poncy Force do when they not ganking retrievers ? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/2/c/12c0ca229cfd9db6b9b966058c65d0a9db0c0680.jpeg) They gang bang newbies ---
**Author:** ![TheHound\_OfGreys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/thehound_ofgreys/32/412487_2.png) [@TheHound\_OfGreys](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/TheHound_OfGreys)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/139 "2024-03-06T13:24:59Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > We don’t like you, hun. Well, this is the second time you’ve said this, so either you’re trying to find a larger audience for your jokes or you think that saying the same thing twice will somehow give it a bigger impact. Either way, it’s not funny and yes, I know, I don’t like you either. We’ve been over this ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/140 "2024-03-06T13:25:16Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > > > well I’m not a ganker > > ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/a/f2ae7a1df2037d6f7c0c83a65dbbba896b9b0f9a.jpeg) > > Pull the other one, has bells on it. That’s not a gank , that was someone who was happy to PvP because of the kill right , just doing what needs to be done. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827/141 "2024-03-06T13:26:18Z")
> [@TheHound\_OfGreys](#): > > I don’t like you either Well, this is the third time you’ve said this, so either you’re trying to find a larger audience for your jokes or you think that saying the same thing thrice will somehow give it a bigger impact. Either way, it’s not funny and yes, I know, I don’t like you either. We’ve been over this [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-do-you-define-ganking-pvp-and-trolling/441827.md?page=8)