# How I used to make money sending newbies to their deaths **URL:** \ **Category:** Market Discussions\ **Created:** [August 13, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906 "2019-08-13T03:27:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Liandri\_Kamadachi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/liandri_kamadachi/32/395516_2.png) [@Liandri\_Kamadachi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Liandri_Kamadachi)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/1 "2019-08-13T03:27:03Z")
Old player here, and I just wanted to share an old scam of mine. I used it to make cash back in the early days when isk was harder to come by for a starting player. I’d set up buy orders for a starter ships in starting zones. I’ll use an Ibis, for example. I’d get these ships, unpack them, and set up a fairly lucrative contract (isk/jump was high, but not _too_ high). Take my unpacked Ibis 10-20 jumps or so. Give it like a 1-2 mill collateral, and send 'em to an extra dangerous lowsec/nullsec station. I typically had 5-10 of these contracts at any given point going, and I’m pretty sure I did at least a hundred of 'em. I only ever had one single Ibis that made it. I call it my **Newbie Education Program™**. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/2 "2019-08-13T03:49:06Z")
> [@Liandri\_Kamadachi](#): > > Newbie Education Program Will you be there waiting? ---
**Author:** ![Figaro\_Devars](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/figaro_devars/32/511786_2.png) [@Figaro\_Devars](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Figaro_Devars)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/3 "2019-08-13T04:49:51Z")
I like your style. Carry on. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/4 "2019-08-13T08:37:38Z")
I don’t get how this works … Any courier contract will have its contents in a plastic wrap, so people accepting will not make the trip in an Ibis … ---
**Author:** ![Zahara\_Cody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zahara_cody/32/470812_2.png) [@Zahara\_Cody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zahara_Cody)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/5 "2019-08-13T16:38:41Z")
Must’ve made a killing. I’m still trying. ---
**Author:** ![Nepsy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nepsy/32/302840_2.png) [@Nepsy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nepsy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/6 "2019-08-13T18:26:49Z")
Collateral was probably low, so people looking to make a profit off undercollateralized couriers were probably the targets. ---
**Author:** ![Caedor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caedor/32/151508_2.png) [@Caedor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caedor)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/7 "2019-08-13T19:01:57Z")
> [@Liandri\_Kamadachi](#): > > Old player here, and I just wanted to share an old scam of mine. I used it to make cash back in the early days when isk was harder to come by for a starting player. I’d set up buy orders for a starter ships in starting zones. I’ll use an Ibis, for example. > > I’d get these ships, unpack them, and set up a fairly lucrative contract (isk/jump was high, but not _too_ high). Take my unpacked Ibis 10-20 jumps or so. Give it like a 1-2 mill collateral, and send 'em to an extra dangerous lowsec/nullsec station. I typically had 5-10 of these contracts at any given point going, and I’m pretty sure I did at least a hundred of 'em. I only ever had one single Ibis that made it. > > I call it my **Newbie Education Program™**. Typical trash player who can’t PvP and has to kill new players to get kills. Hilarious. You should join CODE, they have about the same skill level. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-i-used-to-make-money-sending-newbies-to-their-deaths/181906/8 "2019-11-11T19:02:00Z")
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