# How is it now **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Created:** [December 12, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552 "2018-12-12T23:35:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gadwin\_Aideron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadwin_aideron/32/110223_2.png) [@Gadwin\_Aideron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadwin_Aideron)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/1 "2018-12-12T23:35:53Z")
Sow how is abyss now still the same useless ■■■■ only for ships that is more blinged out that todays shitty rappers ? Or have they manage to make iron out it more to be more streamlined and useful and a decnt way to make isk? Reason I wish it´s a decent way to make isk is that after 11 years on and off in eve doing mission,mining,ratting,exploration for the 11th million time your kinda sick of the same old stuff I mean I was happy like ■■■■ something brand new that I never done before but it´s so damn shitty made you had to do it 200-400 times just to get the isk back you spent on that 2billion gila to even handle the ■■■■. Or do they need 2-3 years to Iron the ■■■■ out ? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/2 "2018-12-13T00:21:55Z")
Go drunk, dude, you’re home. ---
**Author:** ![Butt\_Cigar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/butt_cigar/32/131787_2.png) [@Butt\_Cigar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Butt_Cigar)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/3 "2018-12-13T01:08:42Z")
I’m going to refer to heavily blinged ships as ‘rapper ships’ from now on. Thank you sir. ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/4 "2018-12-13T01:53:12Z")
> [@Gadwin\_Aideron](#): > > Sow how is abyss now still the same useless ■■■■ only for ships that is more blinged out that todays shitty rappers ? Yes. The main difference is now you can go in with 3 blinged out frigates with 2 of your flyest homies, or instead of shooting at NPCs you can now shoot at an equally expensive player ship. I just really can’t bring myself to spend that much on a fit that is practically guaranteed to get destroyed at some point. I’m a space-poor newbie who sucks at Abyss ■■■■. And even CCP’s recommended newbie fits are still too much for me to afford as often as I would need to run enough sites to turn a profit. ---
**Author:** ![Gadwin\_Aideron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadwin_aideron/32/110223_2.png) [@Gadwin\_Aideron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadwin_Aideron)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/5 "2018-12-13T01:57:20Z")
Yeah I know you Im a poor ■■■■■■■ vet because I don´t play 24/7 or live down in null all day. So maybe wait 2 more years for them the get their hands out their asses and make it decent. ---
**Author:** ![Azazel\_Drakonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazel_drakonis/32/495743_2.png) [@Azazel\_Drakonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazel_Drakonis)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/7 "2018-12-13T18:03:26Z")
I spent 700m on a Vaga to run 4’s and 5’s and made the isk back in 2 sites. Perhaps you’re doing it wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/melisma_ramijozana/32/168474_2.png) [@Melisma\_Ramijozana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Melisma_Ramijozana)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/8 "2018-12-13T18:41:40Z")
700m is too much for me sadly, and I haven’t made it to T4s yet. So, kinda yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Azazel\_Drakonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazel_drakonis/32/495743_2.png) [@Azazel\_Drakonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazel_Drakonis)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/9 "2018-12-13T19:02:21Z")
Not tried this myself, but I believe Suitonia did a video with a 30m isk Caracal fit that does T3’s just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/10 "2018-12-14T07:13:03Z")
Interesting. I’d like to see that fit, please 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Azazel\_Drakonis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azazel_drakonis/32/495743_2.png) [@Azazel\_Drakonis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azazel_Drakonis)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/11 "2018-12-15T16:36:34Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2019, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-is-it-now/126552/12 "2019-03-15T16:36:42Z")
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