# How many alts are there in relation to the number of online players?

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**Created:** [July 25, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858 "2020-07-25T22:49:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Surly\_Bill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/surly_bill/32/221329_2.png) [@Surly\_Bill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Surly_Bill)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/21 "2020-07-26T01:44:48Z")

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Out of 30,000 players online at any moment, most are alts!!  
Everyone knows only about 40 people play this game.  
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**Author:** ![Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ishmael_ronuken/32/209150_2.png) [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ishmael_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/22 "2020-07-26T01:49:02Z")

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At the very least, you have three character slots per account. So assume everyone has at least three characters of themselves roaming around. This is only one at a time.  
Assume all alphas are alts of the omegas.  
Assume the average person could (if they needed to) run three extra accounts for multiboxing.  
Thusly we can predict that for a mean average from most multiboxing to least there can be an assumed average of three accounts per person actively playing. Some just do their solo, others have fleets of their clones, I feel this is the most fair.  
So out of 30k players 10k or so are unique.

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/23 "2020-07-26T02:08:22Z")

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> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#):
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> you have three character slots per account. So assume everyone has at least three characters of themselves roaming around.

You can only log on one of the character slots of the same account at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Jerry\_Falcone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jerry_falcone/32/167073_2.png) [@Jerry\_Falcone](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jerry_Falcone)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/24 "2020-07-26T02:09:21Z")

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> [@Ishmael\_Ronuken](#):
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> This is only one at a time.

you missed this part elitatwo

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/25 "2020-07-26T02:10:20Z")

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Speaking of alts, since @Destiny_Corrupted and I think we’ll be getting married someday, I figured it’s time for me to roll a new alt. Everyone meet Archer en Corrupted! I’ve never felt so pretty ❤

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/b/0/b09daf24fcf8aeea48d7fc2ef35a146558be0e34.jpeg)

Edit: OH ■■■■ I FORGOT TO PROPOSE FIRST!!! Or is she supposed to propose to me? 😖

Second Edit: What if she wants to adopt MY last name? So many questions to answer before the wedding!

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/26 "2020-07-26T03:04:23Z")

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Oh god…

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/27 "2020-07-26T03:26:40Z")

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By your response I don’t know if I should skill extract/inject or not 😜

Is that LOL 🤭 or a 🤮?

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**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/28 "2020-07-26T03:59:28Z")

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True to the times I had 1.5 kids. That one with one leg, one arm, one eye and one ear was really a lot of trouble to feed. He also had a drinking problem. Everything he drank leaked onto the floor. Maybe…he became one of the folks who has .5 accounts!

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/29 "2020-07-26T04:07:55Z")

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In an age where half-a-child is a thing, Google lets you cloud compute with less than one virtual CPU

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/f/eff3a9ebd0c1744f3cf8a0f393bda455ee2fdc19.png)

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/30 "2020-07-26T04:31:38Z")

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The question often arises on other games, although most of them aren’t quite as bot- or alt-friendly as EVE.

Despite what people assume, the clear majority of players in most games play a single account at a time. Some few people play 2 accounts at once, or 3. A very small percentage play 4-6 accounts. An extremely small percentage play 7 or more accounts at a time (less than 2% of players). This is on **typical** games, mind you, so EVE would probably double most of those numbers. Still, not a large percentage _of players_ multi-boxing.

Personally though, not based on statistics, but just based on observations made over time, if we took the 30,00 player mark and wanted to break it down, my _ **guess** _ is the numbers would come out at something like:

14,000 - Single players: playing, AFK, semi-afk, ship spinning, parked in trading stations all day long, etc.  
3,000 - players running alts  
7,000 - alt accounts run by the 3k players using multiple accounts.  
6,000 - Bots of various sorts, mining, ratting, market trading, info bots

Something in that range, anyway. It won’t be like 8,000 real players, 12,000 alts, and 10,000 bots. Although I really can’t feel confident about that bot number…

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/31 "2020-07-26T04:44:11Z")

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The second one…

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**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/32 "2020-07-26T04:51:20Z")

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I was only joking ☹

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**Author:** ![Chakal\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chakal_1/32/214312_2.png) [@Chakal\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chakal_1)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/33 "2020-07-26T05:01:12Z")

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wow a really large number of bots.

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**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/34 "2020-07-26T05:19:55Z")

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Go to jita local, market alts/bots, cloaking campers. You already have 1-2k. Not to mention ratters, miners. There where even bots that was doing exoplanets PD. Bots are everywhere in EVE.

I think cutting current online numbers in half is quite good estimate on how much actual individual humans is playing.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/35 "2020-07-26T05:42:14Z")

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[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/e/ee2cd37bfbd5c2f10505601d7806b11caa719d35.jpeg) ](https://pcring.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/pok%C3%B3j-gracza-10.jpg)

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Last one is from an EVE player too, despite no EVE on it. Zhek Kromtor.

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**Author:** ![Chakal\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chakal_1/32/214312_2.png) [@Chakal\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chakal_1)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/36 "2020-07-26T05:59:20Z")

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that’s a bit sad to hear. I’ve been playing for 4 months and i have seen guys runing a small gang fleet alone and for me it ruins a bit the experience. maybe i need to realized that i have to get used to this multiboxing thing or quit the game.

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**Author:** ![Chakal\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chakal_1/32/214312_2.png) [@Chakal\_1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chakal_1)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/37 "2020-07-26T06:01:40Z")

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maybe for some people thats the meaning of playing eve well, but to me having that amount of accounts multiboxing doesn’t let you to enjoy the game completely. maybe im the one who is wrong

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**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/38 "2020-07-26T06:13:51Z")

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Play your sandbox your way. Don’t let others tell you how to play. There is no best or right way to play eve. If you don’t enjoy something, don’t do it. Also it’s a game, not job only about how isk you make. And instead of alt you can bring a friend. You will have much better experience.

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**Author:** ![Caleb\_Seremshur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/caleb_seremshur/32/399348_2.png) [@Caleb\_Seremshur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Caleb_Seremshur)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/39 "2020-07-26T09:46:10Z")

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People running dozens of alts is just a replacement for the automation the game would otherwise sensibly have, wrt mining etc. I work with automation IRL, EVE’s lack of automation is purely a contrived means to have blanket policy against botting. I get it, but it isn’t sensible and as a policy has little effect.

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**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/40 "2020-07-26T11:04:31Z")

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This isn’t real? 🚶‍♂️

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