# How many alts are there in relation to the number of online players? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 25, 2020, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858 "2020-07-25T22:49:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![0verpowered](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0verpowered/32/220475_2.png) [@0verpowered](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0verpowered)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/41 "2020-07-26T11:18:45Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/a/9a48aaa121838d21703c9c91860e379dc5002322.png) > > 900×600 5.63 KB 0.1% at 10 accounts. I wonder where I would stand with over 100. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/42 "2020-07-26T12:21:43Z")
Data is at lest 4 years old. Since then numbers definitely went up ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/43 "2020-07-26T12:38:13Z")
> [@Chakal\_1](#): > > wow a really large number of bots. It’s just a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/44 "2020-07-26T12:40:10Z")
On one hand, skill farming is practiced increasing the ease of having multiple accounts, on the other hand, input broadcasting is prohibited making the simultaneous use of accounts more tedious. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/45 "2020-07-26T12:50:35Z")
Graph shows accounts per player. Not how many you multibox. And even with that in mind. In last 4-5 years, there was enough dumb changes that encouraged people to create big fleets of alts. Right now, probably most players that play eve for longer than few months, have more than one account sitting somewhere. Even unused (CCPlease, when we will able to remove accounts again?). ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/46 "2020-07-26T13:01:44Z")
Ultimately, with regard to the frequency of multiboxing, we are all guessing. Why do you say it’s more common now? ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/47 "2020-07-26T13:37:06Z")
Because I play for long enough to see how playerbase behavior/attitude has changed over time ---
**Author:** ![Hamza\_ALKHUSAIBI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hamza_alkhusaibi/32/376283_2.png) [@Hamza\_ALKHUSAIBI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hamza_ALKHUSAIBI)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/48 "2020-07-26T13:47:43Z")
IMO, it is not the number it is the active players . it can be 1M accounts but 100k active . ---
**Author:** ![Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/forum_posting_alt/32/254303_2.png) [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Forum_Posting_Alt)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/49 "2020-07-26T13:47:50Z")
I’d agree with the above, multi-boxing has pretty much become the norm. Also, I’d disagree with the botting estimate above, it is probably considerably lower - most of what you will see are afk multi-boxing crab accounts -\> 2-8 accounts is not uncommon in nullsec. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/50 "2020-07-26T13:52:37Z")
It is not just a multiboxing issue. A huge number of players are logged in, but not playing the game. All those people in Jita are not necessarily busy at their keyboard doing stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/51 "2020-07-26T15:07:55Z")
> [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](#): > > Having 100 skillfarming accounts would still have very low activity levels since the accounts would rarely be logged in, for example. yeah but when a game claims # of players and you find out 1/3 of those are just accounts thats offline. at one point years ago CCP said we had something like 300k sub accounts but Magically “spread across the timezones”. im still upset over the big blog thay released a month after alphas where they were bragging how limiting alphas to 1 account what such a success that they were going to do it to omega because of balance, 2-3 months later that whole area of the blog was deleted lol ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/52 "2020-07-26T15:43:09Z")
> [@Forum\_Posting\_Alt](#): > > Also, I’d disagree with the botting estimate above, it is probably considerably lower Agreed, I sometimes forget that I tend to have personal definitions that don’t agree with the norms. For me personally, I include AFK multi-boxing crab accounts in my ‘bots’ numbers, because I consider the activity to be be effectively the same in terms of game results as botting, even though no actual bot program is needed. So feel free to shift 2,100 accounts from the Bot category into +700 for ‘Players running alts’ and +1400 for ‘alts run by multi-boxers’. I don’t intend for those numbers to be in any way accurate _as numbers_, they are just there to indicate the relative scale of what my personal experiences with EVE has led me to expect: - 50% of accounts online are single players on a single account (even though they may _own_ multiple accounts, they only _play_ one at a time) - many of whom are completely/mostly AFK. - 30% of accounts online are multi-boxers / alts. - 20% of accounts are bots or players who are engaging in bot-like gameplay. ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/53 "2020-07-26T16:30:28Z")
“Sadly” (?) I don’t qualify in all the categories on this list. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/1/010487405f8d0c75e4d7b5d3ed26c1505e71042b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/54 "2020-07-26T16:56:19Z")
# Elite Player Profile How do you kill that which has no life? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/7/475483ec75b84a867bfe4f497136d7415683ff3d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mira\_Vajus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mira_vajus/32/223875_2.png) [@Mira\_Vajus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mira_Vajus)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/55 "2020-07-26T17:38:09Z")
> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#): > > Ultimately, with regard to the frequency of multiboxing, we are all guessing. Why do you say it’s more common now? I’d guess that multiboxers make up a smaller part of the total playerbase nowadays considering the influx of alpha players in game. The total number of multiboxers are probably about the same as it have been for the last couple of years. ---
**Author:** ![Magnus\_Carta](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/magnus_carta/32/210653_2.png) [@Magnus\_Carta](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Magnus_Carta)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/56 "2020-07-26T18:30:13Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > For me personally, I include AFK multi-boxing crab accounts in my ‘bots’ numbers, because I consider the activity to be be effectively the same So you can’t get your definitions right and you post guesses. Exactly how much value should we put on your “findings”? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/57 "2020-07-26T18:49:40Z")
as far as i know most people don’t have alts ---
**Author:** ![Earnest\_Emu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/earnest_emu/32/380843_2.png) [@Earnest\_Emu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Earnest_Emu)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/58 "2020-07-26T19:04:37Z")
Don’t guess. You are very very wrong. I multi box 4 most of the time and some times 8. There are many players who do this all over hs, low and null. Go look at some of the ice belts in hs, 12 man boxers, same or worse in null sec. I have seen 12 man multi boxing rorq’s, gank fleets in many cases is 1 person boxing up to 20 alts. ---
**Author:** ![Serene\_Repose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/serene_repose/32/384960_2.png) [@Serene\_Repose](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Serene_Repose)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/59 "2020-07-26T19:47:39Z")
There’s a 20-box guy mining ice in Teonusude every day. He’s a pain in the butt 'cause he used a glossary of Roman names with over a half-dozen beginning with A eating up the local roster. Many wish his untimely demise. Of course, he’s there to HOG the ice belt. The issue then arose, “If there’s a problem with it, YOU should run twenty toons, too!” Have we really gone so far off the rails that someone else’s greed is now sufficient cause to become greedy yourself? I’d say, “God help us,” but if this is true no help is coming from that direction; only retribution. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858/60 "2020-07-26T20:07:08Z")
And with just 10 of similar “players” we already have +200 in online pool. As long as developers will continue to make this type of gameplay profitable, nothing will change. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-many-alts-are-there-in-relation-to-the-number-of-online-players/256858.md?page=4)