# How Not to Be Prey, Bittervet Philosophy

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [April 14, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133 "2025-04-14T20:23:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/62 "2025-04-26T17:46:30Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> I’ve done more complex PvP on a text game.

…but have you done any in EvE Online?

🤔

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/63 "2025-04-26T18:28:19Z")

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No. I’ve never ganged up on a mining barge with 6 other people and hit the F1 button LOLOL!!!

Not worth my time! LOL!

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/64 "2025-04-26T18:41:51Z")

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I have, it’s fun!

If you do it outside HS you don’t even have to lose a ship to do so. 😉

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/66 "2025-04-26T22:39:36Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> if I ever left High Sec

Wow, let us know when you stop being so scared.

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/67 "2025-04-26T23:48:57Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Why would I lose a ship just to blow up a mining barge?

> [@Lydra\_Victor](#):
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> because I’m the Crazy type.

👆

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**Author:** ![Lydra\_Victor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lydra_victor/32/515931_2.png) [@Lydra\_Victor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lydra_Victor)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/69 "2025-04-27T00:39:34Z")

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You think Gankers life was easy? CCP didn’t exclude them from being nerfed 👇

> **[Changes to Security Status & Abyssal Filaments | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/changes-to-security-status-and-abyssal-filaments)**
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> New changes to outlaw behavior in high security space & activation of Abyssal filaments

They adapted from this rules and they find a way to win against the rules. Now ,we can’t even shoot them in HS open space because they are forced to always adjust their sec. status. And for the tethering part. Who the hell are putting players structures near the gates in HS and the Cry Bears didn’t bother to wardec it.. There are ways to fight or survive against HS Gankers but Many Miners are too dumb to think outside the rocks.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/71 "2025-04-27T07:36:52Z")

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Then why are they not dealing with situations like that? All I see from you for example is your complaints about gankers and a few losses on zkillboard, nothing that suggests you are “dealing with situations like that”.

Or is it the others in the alliance who do that?

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/73 "2025-04-27T15:25:11Z")

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> [@Glenduil](#):
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> Doesn’t your entire corp hide in high sec?

Nope.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/74 "2025-04-29T01:51:03Z")

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He’s a big man don’t you know, all that clown-face makeup, and a hidden profile.

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/75 "2025-04-29T05:06:48Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> hidden profile

Which by the way achieves nothing…

[https://forums.eveonline.com/search?q=%40Glenduil%20order%3Alatest](https://forums.eveonline.com/search?q=%40Glenduil%20order%3Alatest)

😊

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**Author:** ![Glenduil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/glenduil/32/501812_2.png) [@Glenduil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Glenduil)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/76 "2025-04-29T14:18:42Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> He’s a big man don’t you know, all that clown-face makeup, and a hidden profile.

Would it make you feel better if I made it public? Tell me that it would and I’ll make it public just for you. Sometimes I forget how sensitive Eve players can be. I didn’t mean to make you feel insecure.

> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#):
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> Which by the way achieves nothing…

It clearly does achieve something. It makes Eve players uncomfortable.

One more edit:

Here… Hopefully this will help lower your stress levels:

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/6/5/06542ee1421c33a49a00bec047ad3a2fa6232dbb.jpeg "Bobby McFerrin - Don't Worry Be Happy (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2025, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-not-to-be-prey-bittervet-philosophy/483133/77 "2025-07-28T14:18:58Z")

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