# How orca miners are going to Plex their accounts after the mining changes?

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**Created:** [November 19, 2021, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796 "2021-11-19T11:02:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/44 "2021-11-19T21:17:22Z")

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Nice spin.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/45 "2021-11-19T23:29:40Z")

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Imagine the largest troll on the forum trying to quote me the rules, none of that actually breaks the rules 😛

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**Author:** ![Jumpdrive](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jumpdrive/32/285032_2.png) [@Jumpdrive](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jumpdrive)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 9:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/46 "2021-11-20T09:12:57Z")

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For what it’s worth, I didn’t report you. I’ve got a thicker skin than that.

Anyway, turns out CCP is already way ahead of us. A couple old veterans pointed out to me that CCP has already traded plex on the isk-markets in the past, at least during the time when they still had an economist around. Guy was called Dr Eyjo and there’s still some old interviews up, where he mentioned the practice.

Google the guy and that info to your advantage.

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**Author:** ![Zak\_Win](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zak_win/32/291557_2.png) [@Zak\_Win](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zak_Win)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/47 "2021-11-20T11:06:20Z")

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they’ll pay for the game the old fashioned way - they’ll have to earn it

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/48 "2021-11-20T11:06:31Z")

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If you have an Orca do not panic sell, stick it in mothballs and leave it, at some point it will become fashionable again. CCP will go through yet another buff/nerf session, it is as inevitable as the sun rising.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 12:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/49 "2021-11-20T12:22:37Z")

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> [@Jin\_Endares](#):
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> Any proof of that? 😮

Yes, there is prove of that. But you just have to believe me because I can’t be arsed to dig it up

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/50 "2021-11-20T12:44:44Z")

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First round of tweaks already announced, pretty quickly by CCP historical standards. No need even for mothballs yet as it looks like it may be a fair while before anything actually changes.

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**Author:** ![Uninstallation\_Assistant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uninstallation_assistant/32/296756_2.png) [@Uninstallation\_Assistant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uninstallation_Assistant)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/51 "2021-11-20T13:15:49Z")

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I like that, CCP has been rewarding effortless bot-aspirancy for too long, thankfully this is going to change as the Orca becomes useless and must be sold in Jita ASAP. Good luck paying the omega in ventures.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/52 "2021-11-20T13:45:09Z")

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> [@Uninstallation\_Assistant](#):
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> Good luck paying the omega in ventures.

There’s always good old subscription. Still works just fine.

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**Author:** ![Cara\_Lube](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cara_lube/32/297237_2.png) [@Cara\_Lube](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cara_Lube)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/53 "2021-11-20T13:52:09Z")

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> [@Uninstallation\_Assistant](#):
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> If the Orca is getting nerfed by losing its mining drone capabilities… how are they going to pay for the omega?

As before, by SP extraction.

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**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/54 "2021-11-20T14:17:46Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> Yes, there is prove of that. But you just have to believe me because I can’t be arsed to dig it up

I’m not fan of James, CODE et al.

However…

![Riiiiiiight](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/6/0/a6051ca04ff12438f2dfe190aa525f98c3692d52.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Alioshia1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alioshia1/32/291976_2.png) [@Alioshia1](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alioshia1)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/55 "2021-11-20T14:21:24Z")

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“sitting AFK in bot-mode in Highsec eating roids undisturbed” is the reason they are getting the nerf.

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**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/56 "2021-11-20T14:29:05Z")

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The proc gets more tank after the patch if you go full tank.

While it lost 2 mids and some raw hp it gained 10% resists across shields an extra low and 30% resists across armor.

So if you go max yield and add only a shield tank you’ll be softer. If you give up yield and brick yourself, you’re far more tanky

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/57 "2021-11-20T15:03:40Z")

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> [@Jin\_Endares](#):
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> I’m not fan of James, CODE et al.

Why? He is your Saviour as well

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**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/58 "2021-11-20T15:10:36Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> Why? He is your Saviour as well

![No](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/b/e/5beb44ee2b0303caad573536f985f64cac1a822f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/59 "2021-11-20T16:14:17Z")

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Imagine having to grind isk to sub though XD

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**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/60 "2021-11-20T16:36:37Z")

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The mentality that a production or mining related character has its break even point when it pays for its omega is at the core of what caused all this.

How about you actually just play the game for fun.

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**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/62 "2021-11-20T21:37:07Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> If you have an Orca do not panic sell…

 ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/a/9a14cb61fe628fd0b99ca4b7b9be34141f9d9658.gif)  
I haven’t bought up enough cheap orcas yet. The panic/rage selling has already slowed considerably and folks like you trying to calm folks doesn’t help me. 😉

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/63 "2021-11-20T23:49:23Z")

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> [@Aisha\_Katalen](#):
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> The mentality that a production or mining related character has its break even point when it pays for its omega is at the core of what caused all this.
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> How about you actually just play the game for fun.

Don’t tell me what to do, griefer scum!

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**Author:** ![Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peaceful_industrialist_miner/32/294138_2.png) [@Peaceful\_Industrialist\_Miner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peaceful_Industrialist_Miner)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-orca-miners-are-going-to-plex-their-accounts-after-the-mining-changes/337796/64 "2021-11-21T00:24:57Z")

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Got 2 for under 800mil but now they are up again

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