# How to carry ore to Jita, without getting blown up? **URL:** \ **Category:** New Citizens Q&A\ **Created:** [October 13, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206 "2021-10-13T08:12:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mynutor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mynutor/32/350312_2.png) [@Mynutor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mynutor)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/1 "2021-10-13T08:12:24Z")
I am a n00b player. I mine several jumps away from Jita in HS, no real trade hub in the vicinity. I usually compress the ores and carry them to Jita in my Miasmos. What is the highest amount/most valuable ore cargo/most isk/ that I can carry in my tiny little miasmos without getting blow up by a pirate on my route to Jita? I figured, 50% of my cargo (on average) is lost when they blow me up, so if my cargo is worth less then double their ganking ships worth they leave me alone? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/2 "2021-10-13T08:20:05Z")
There is no amount to stop them from ganking you… if they want to gank you they will… even if you have nothing in your hold. ---
**Author:** ![Mynutor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mynutor/32/350312_2.png) [@Mynutor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mynutor)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/3 "2021-10-13T08:21:33Z")
I am not talking about ganking. I am talking about pirating. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/4 "2021-10-13T08:27:04Z")
> [@Mynutor](#): > > getting blow up by a pirate AKA ganking… NOTHING will stop them… as i said even if you have nothing, they will still blow you up for fits and giggles. ---
**Author:** ![Kylanti\_Hendar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kylanti_hendar/32/385538_2.png) [@Kylanti\_Hendar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kylanti_Hendar)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/5 "2021-10-13T08:38:03Z")
> [@Mynutor](#): > > I figured, 50% of my cargo (on average) is lost when they blow me up, so if my cargo is worth less then double their ganking ships worth they leave me alone? That should lower your risk of being Ganked. Although it won’t remove it. Also you need to include the mods on your ship in the calculation as they can drop too. Other options: - courier contracts - get someone else to carry it. I have no idea on costs but it maybe the case that you can mine the difference the time you would have been hauling. - buy back service - I think you can get 90% Jita anywhere in HS, again maybe you can mine the difference in the time saved. ---
**Author:** ![Mynutor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mynutor/32/350312_2.png) [@Mynutor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mynutor)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/6 "2021-10-13T08:40:27Z")
Thanks. Just what I thought. Can compressed ores drop, or do they go all up in smoke? ---
**Author:** ![Kylanti\_Hendar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kylanti_hendar/32/385538_2.png) [@Kylanti\_Hendar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kylanti_Hendar)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/7 "2021-10-13T08:49:50Z")
I’m fairly sure they drop. But I’ve never checked. ---
**Author:** ![Mynutor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mynutor/32/350312_2.png) [@Mynutor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mynutor)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/8 "2021-10-13T09:08:41Z")
in this kill: > **[Nereus | Wimet delNeles | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/95875635/)** > > Wimet delNeles (Center for Advanced Studies) lost their Nereus in Jita (The Forge) Total Value: 20,331,752.43 ISK all of the PI stuff blew up. Does PI stuff always blow up, or was it because it was in a container? And why did a 110m tornado kill a 20m Nereus? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/9 "2021-10-13T09:09:54Z")
again, they’ll kill them for fits and giggles… its not always about isk… ---
**Author:** ![Kylanti\_Hendar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kylanti_hendar/32/385538_2.png) [@Kylanti\_Hendar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kylanti_Hendar)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/10 "2021-10-13T09:16:53Z")
I think if things are in a container the entire container and contents drop or are destroyed. There are many reasons why someone might blow up another players ship in this game, profit is only one of the reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/11 "2021-10-18T01:54:27Z")
> [@Mynutor](#): > > all of the PI stuff blew up. Does PI stuff always blow up, or was it because it was in a container? Because it was in a container. Things that are in a container, will either drop, or get destroyed. Just like, If i drop your cat, and there is a 50/50 percent chance that the cat will either land on a fluffy pillow and survive, or land in molten hot magma and die, youre not going to expect the cat to be dropped into magma and suffer a minor broken leg, right? > [@Mynutor](#): > > And why did a 110m tornado kill a 20m Nereus? Its EVEs answer to a loot box. Sometimes you spend a hundred dollars on a loot box and you get crappy, shitty items. Sometimes you spend a hundred dollars on a loot box, and its a Ferrari. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/12 "2021-10-18T02:23:58Z")
Maybe they preferred a 110m ship kill a 200 m ship? ---
**Author:** ![Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pierre_de_bricassart/32/386093_2.png) [@Pierre\_de\_Bricassart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pierre_de_Bricassart)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/13 "2021-10-18T09:18:02Z")
Perhaps it was just a test, that’s his Tornado blown to bits shortly after. > **[Tornado | Mirko Vinci Anneto | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/95875636/)** > > Mirko Vinci Anneto (Deaths Consortium) lost their Tornado in Jita (The Forge) Total Value: 109,570,084.85 ISK But as the contents have been in a secure container, maybe he just wasn’t able to see the contents of the container and thus had to guess. So to be precise, the Nereus pilot kind of ganked the Tornado guy 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/14 "2021-10-18T09:19:16Z")
Jita is no longer the high class cesspit it once was, it has fallen from grace, why not move it to somewhere else? ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/15 "2021-10-19T15:15:45Z")
Forget how much is in your hold and learn to mwd cloak. If they can’t scan you they can’t know how much you’re hauling. Beyond that don’t carry more than you’re willing to lose. You can also just pay red frog to move it for you. May cost 20-30 mil but you don’t risk losing your ship or isk. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-carry-ore-to-jita-without-getting-blown-up/332206/16 "2022-01-17T15:16:42Z")
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