# How to fix the bot problem and make people happy **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 18, 2018, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876 "2018-08-18T10:09:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/225 "2018-09-05T00:01:51Z")
> [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](#): > > Why was this flagged? Most likely, because it touched on racial and political topics, which we’re not supposed to discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/226 "2018-09-05T04:24:20Z")
I knew salvos had to be shiting up this thread by the post count differences ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/227 "2018-09-05T07:00:03Z")
Dunno, but it would still be you guilty of botting. > [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > I knew salvos had to be shiting up this thread by the post count differences Unlike you and some others, I dont shill for botters. > [@Whitehound](#): > > The claim obviously ignores the nature of bots, which is to stay undetected. There are no bots active in EVE that can hack a data/relic can reliably, much less bots that can automate probing down the sig in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/228 "2018-09-05T07:10:58Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > There are no bots active in EVE that can hack a data/relic can reliably, much less bots that can automate probing down the sig in the first place. This topic has been successfully Salvoshed. R.I.P. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/229 "2018-09-05T07:15:54Z")
Perhaps one day you will successfully Nicolize a thread. But that day is not today. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/230 "2018-09-05T07:18:44Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > There are no bots active in EVE that can hack a data/relic can reliably, much less bots that can automate probing down the sig in the first place. You keep saying it, but who believes it? ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/231 "2018-09-05T07:19:20Z")
Unlike you I’m not shiting up the forums ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/232 "2018-09-05T07:20:30Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > Unlike you I’m not shiting up the forums I think you just did make a few little 💩 on the thread. > [@Whitehound](#): > > You keep saying it, but who believes it? Believe it or not, its the truth. Mining/ratting bots, yes. Hacking/probing bots, no. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/233 "2018-09-05T07:24:11Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > Believe it or not, its the truth. The truth is that you want to believe this. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/234 "2018-09-05T07:25:34Z")
I believe it, because I know its true. You dont believe it, because you dont know any better. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/235 "2018-09-05T07:25:59Z")
But what did bots ever do to you.Why all the hate ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/236 "2018-09-05T07:26:44Z")
> [@Dark\_Engraver](#): > > But what did bots ever do to you I think a better question would be what do bots do FOR you, since you shill so hard for them. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/237 "2018-09-05T07:27:03Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > There are no bots active in EVE that can hack a data/relic can reliably, much less bots that can automate probing down the sig in the first place. How can you claim to know that ? You are, as usual, ignoring anything that contradicts your current obsession, without offering any proof - repeating the same falsehood time and time again is not proof, it’s just trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/238 "2018-09-05T07:27:23Z")
They keep adms up and pay sov bills ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/239 "2018-09-05T07:28:09Z")
> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#): > > ignoring anything that contradicts you There is zero evidence hack/probe bots exist in EVE. You are believing in the existance of something, with zero proof. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/240 "2018-09-05T07:29:07Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > believe it, because I know its true. > > You dont believe it, because you dont know any better. No. Only you don’t know any better. I certainly know better. When I don’t see something then it doesn’t mean it cannot exist. Everyone but you knows this. And as two software developers have already told you is it well possible. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/241 "2018-09-05T07:29:58Z")
> [@Whitehound](#): > > When I don’t see something then it doesn’t mean it cannot exist. Do you believe ghosts exist? > [@Whitehound](#): > > Everyone but you knows this. Thats what people like you told Galileo. > [@Whitehound](#): > > I certainly know better. You have proof that hack/probe bots exist in EVE? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/242 "2018-09-05T07:36:53Z")
> [@Salvos\_Rhoska](#): > > You have proof hack/probe bots exist in EVE? Stop asking for bots, Salvos. Any evidence needs to be given to CCP and shouldn’t be made public on the forum. Now can you proof they cannot exist? Surely, you must have a university degree and learned how to make a sound proof of your claim. ---
**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/243 "2018-09-05T07:38:00Z")
So you believe something (in this case hack/probe bots in EVE) exist, though there is no evidence of that? > [@Whitehound](#): > > Surely, you must have a university degree and learned how to make a sound proof of your claim. An educated person knows that that which has no evidence of existing, cannot be argued to exist. Also that you are asking me to prove a negative, which is a fallacy. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876/244 "2018-09-05T07:38:47Z")
Ah yes the existential dilemma of bots.What do they want?Are they friendly?Can we communicate with them? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-fix-the-bot-problem-and-make-people-happy/98876.md?page=13)