# How to get more people to play eve online? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 29, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343 "2019-10-29T20:50:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/227 "2019-11-09T14:08:13Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Name one. Take your pick, while not ALL are space theme games there are plenty of games out there, standing on dogma doesn’t make it fact. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/228 "2019-11-09T15:23:10Z")
> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#): > > Take your pick, while not ALL are space theme games there are plenty of games out there, standing on dogma doesn’t make it fact. A game that _rivals_ EvE … name one. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/229 "2019-11-09T16:17:27Z")
> [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > It was a T2-fit marauder. The bulk of the ISK was destroyed. Then you’re an extremely rare exception to the rule, probably because someone confused you with another player in a similar ship. Suicide ganks against unprofitable targets are _rare_, and you’re almost certainly going to make more than the 2 billion ISK for a replacement ship before you encounter another one. > And EVE has rivals. It really doesn’t. And that’s the problem with your ideas, you want to take away one of the major things that makes EVE unique in favor of trying to repeat the same failed business strategy that game after game has attempted. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/230 "2019-11-09T17:29:39Z")
> [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > Your comparison with the Leopard is just not relevant. Why? The majority of the isk is in the hull? > [@Bloody\_Larry](#): > > People have less money to spend in the real world these days. And EVE has rivals. It’s quite possible the ones that stayed after being ganked are, and I used to work for British Gas so I know this to be true, the ones that came back. And some didn’t/haven’t. Why would you fill out a survey if you’re walking from the game? Many don’t/won’t. It’s an old statistic but… If it’s good you may tell 3 of your friends. If it’s bad you’ll moan to 7. And EVE player numbers have not been going up historically. It wasn’t a survey. It was data from ccp’s server. Have you got anything other than anecdotal evidence to suggest ganking hurts retention? You think eve has rivals because you fundamentally misunderstand what eve is. It’s a persistent pvp sandbox with a real working market. If you play eve’s ‘rivals’ instead of eve, both games would be better off. ---
**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/231 "2019-11-09T19:28:44Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Just as a small reminder, the thread isn’t about _you_ . Just as a small reminder, this is how this “conversation” started, you hypocrite: > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > You’ve been a bit thick lately, kind of caught up in your chest-beating That was your first sentence in your first reply to me in this thread. Before that, here I had neither talked to you nor talked about me. So if you want this thread to not be about me, just stop you making it about me, you hypocrite. > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > You’re a 10-year vet with a ton of SP and ISK. What you do with your stuff isn’t relevant. I’ve only talked about what I do with my stuff here _in reply_ to your crap about what I do with my stuff. You cannot talk about that and then pretend I shouldn’t reply because it isn’t relevant, you hypocrite. > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Discussions of the options available to players are about _those_ players, not you. Again, where have I made this about me here other than _in reply_ to **you** talking about me? > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > When you talk about game design issues, you talk about what applies to the majority of those players. Not what one guy does with his Loki when he’s bored. What a shitposter you are… Who has said anything about me flying a Loki here other than you right now? **You** are the one making this thread about me… > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > I also understand that when discussing ways to grow the player base of EVE, something needs to change. Change is apparently something you don’t want even discussed, for whatever reason. You don’t understand a thing. What I’m against is crappy changes, and specially changes that are bad for the game, not change in general. That clueless players like you are unable to tell the difference and don’t understand why the changes you propose are crap is **your** problem, not mine. I would have nothing against the changes made to the war mechanics, for example, which was no small thing and impacted the gameplay of many players, if it wasn’t because it made impractical for small corps to have a handful of focussed wars. If they fixed that, I would be perfectly fine with those changes in general and with corps without structures being able to opt out of wars, in particular. Nor did I have anything against changing neutral remote assistance flagging from suspect to criminal, again no small change. I think that mechanic has some notable deficiencies, but have nothing against the changes they made there. And so on with so many things. You’re just unable to imagine that could be the case because making wrong assumptions about everything and everyone is the only thing you’re capable of… > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > You seem to take discussion of possible changes as an attack on EVE, rather than simply a discussion. Not sure why that is, perhaps you’ve lost perspective on the relative importance of discussions and gaming. ROFL. Just because you’re unable to understand why some of the things you say are crap and that makes you have to invent some ridiculous “explanation” for me being against that, it doesn’t mean your “explanation” has a leg to stand upon… > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > [An old article about ideas UO and Crowfall developer in PVP - #122 by Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/an-old-article-about-ideas-uo-and-crowfall-developer-in-pvp/192925/122) I read that, and there is one thing there that seems fine, namely giving some incentive to hunt criminals. Everything else is you not understanding the very things you’re proposing, nor how it all works, nor what the effects of those changes would be. I’d be surprised if anyone that knows anything about the game gave a rat’s ass what you proposed there, it did not even seem coherent to me… ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/232 "2019-11-09T20:58:09Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > What does it explain? Expand on that! When i click on links to reddit and have a browse, i often see badly thought out ideas and comments like total hi-sec safety, eve isn’t a pvp game, pets, null is the centre of the universe, hi-sec is for noobs only etc etc, i could go on. And that’s where ccp devs seem to spend most of their time. So it explains where they got the impression that null sec is where the game is and that hi-sec being safer is better for new bros. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Can you imagine … I’ve found a discord server with EVE people in it who aren’t toxic; who are fun; who respect others for doing other things; Thanks for the invite. ---
**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/233 "2019-11-20T02:58:56Z")
> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > > > What does it explain? Expand on that! > > When i click on links to reddit and have a browse, i often see badly thought out ideas and comments like total hi-sec safety, eve isn’t a pvp game, pets, null is the centre of the universe, hi-sec is for noobs only etc etc, i could go on. Why go to Reddit when you can see the same things here! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Vicky\_Vase\_Voltian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vicky_vase_voltian/32/170706_2.png) [@Vicky\_Vase\_Voltian](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vicky_Vase_Voltian)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/234 "2019-11-20T03:49:39Z")
Making New Eden spin off with EVE Ships and stuff? Imagine there is a game like kingdom heart and one of its gummy ships named Rifter or Retribution? A game like Fallout Shelter but with SoE stations? Turn based/real time strategy with eve drones and fighter? Simcity games on a planet that using PI product name and Epithals? …and in its end game, the players are directed to EVE Online. Its like The Witcher and Gwent. Spam easy to make games, from various genre to eventually funnel them to EVE Online. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/235 "2019-11-20T03:52:16Z")
> [@Eivar](#): > > Why go to Reddit when you can see the same things here! 😃 Because all the cool bros hang out there of course. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/236 "2019-11-20T09:25:31Z")
> [@Eivar](#): > > Why go to Reddit when you can see the same things here! 😃 Because the devs actually post there much more often than here. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/237 "2019-11-21T14:20:42Z")
> [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](#): > > > [@Eivar](#): > > > > Why go to Reddit when you can see the same things here! 😃 > > Because the devs actually post there much more often than here. 😉 Dayem. That’s a sad reason. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/238 "2019-11-21T17:01:36Z")
Agreed sad because true. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/239 "2019-11-22T08:01:47Z")
We need an Eve Online film the trailers and Scope videos are awesome, that would be an instant hit imo. ---
**Author:** ![Beekeeper\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beekeeper_bob/32/395030_2.png) [@Beekeeper\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beekeeper_Bob)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2019, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/240 "2019-11-25T18:14:39Z")
Eve suffers from a terrible UI. Unfortunately, it’s the same broken UI that was here 5 years ago when I left. It’s user unfriendly and still buggy as hell after all these years. ---
**Author:** ![Xavi\_Mendosa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xavi_mendosa/32/169679_2.png) [@Xavi\_Mendosa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xavi_Mendosa)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2019, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/241 "2019-11-26T04:56:16Z")
ISK EVE GUIDE, very old and outdated one. But every time I see it in my archive, I want to come back and start EVE again, even from the beggining. Although it is a product prepared voluntarily and distributed free of charge, the pictures, narration and numerical statistics used are very attractive. Makes you feel how deep, free and unique the game is. Such initiatives should be supported. ---
**Author:** ![Rayit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rayit/32/468030_2.png) [@Rayit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rayit)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/242 "2019-12-10T15:28:22Z")
IMO the game needs a matchmaking PvE/PvP type system. Make it a simulation or whatever if you need to justify players from opposite ends of the universe appearing next to each other. Anything to take away the pain of manually finding groups and jumping 20+ jumps on the chance of a fight. The game population and mechanics don’t encourage people to engage with eachother currently beyond huge blobs. ---
**Author:** ![Blade\_Darth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/blade_darth/32/378598_2.png) [@Blade\_Darth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Blade_Darth)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/243 "2019-12-10T15:57:12Z")
Print an ad and pin it to the corkboard in the office. “eve online corporation looking for an accountant/ senior trading manager, experience minimum 2 years, enter recruitment channel … to begin psychological and counter-intelligence screening” > [@Rayit](#): > > 20+ jumps on the chance of a fight. Wormholes, take a duct tape ship, on top of being more engageable, if it blows up it’s not a big loss and you save time going back home :] ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/244 "2019-12-10T16:51:00Z")
> [@Rayit](#): > > IMO the game needs a matchmaking PvE/PvP type system. Make it a simulation or whatever if you need to justify players from opposite ends of the universe appearing next to each other. Anything to take away the pain of manually finding groups and jumping 20+ jumps on the chance of a fight. The game population and mechanics don’t encourage people to engage with eachother currently beyond huge blobs. Guess what happens when matchmaking exists? The world becomes even more empty for those outside matchmaking. People interested in matchmade PVP fights have countless alternative games to play where finding a fight and traversing the world is not part of the gameplay experience. Eve is a living universe. Making it a dead universe won’t attract more people to EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/245 "2019-12-10T17:27:44Z")
> [@Rayit](#): > > IMO the game needs a matchmaking PvE/PvP type system. Make it a simulation or whatever if you need to justify players from opposite ends of the universe appearing next to each other. Matchmaking is a possibility but not that great of a one. If you check the forums on games literally built on and around PvP matchmaking you will see that even in those games, the matchmaker is generally considered to suck. It would be better to concentrate some PvP opportunities in certain areas, and then find some way to create a certain amount of bracketing in the PvP encounters offered in that area. (So that newbies aren’t fighting veterans and T1 ships aren’t fighting T2s and T3s) That way people who wanted that sort of activity would concentrate in that area and it would allow grouping, chat, corp forming, and other PvP and trade opportunities outside of the staged encounters. Faction Warfare had a chance of being like this, as did Resource Wars, and potentially even a modified Triglavian encounter could do it. But of course, CCP never managed to get any of those to work properly for PvP. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve-online/198343/246 "2020-03-09T17:27:51Z")
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