# How to get more people to play eve

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** community\
**Created:** [March 5, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040 "2019-03-05T09:00:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/264 "2019-03-08T21:31:07Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment.

We know this is not quite correct (i.e. it’s wrong). Here’s how we know: FULL TIME PVP would exclude non-PVP activities, like, uhhhhh, mining? And, a “sandbox” is literally an environment, and the environment doesn’t have any significance in describing “the essential core concept of EVE Online” unless . . . wait for it . . . person-versus-ENVIRONMENT is a core concept of the game.

From this, we can easily conclude that the statement isn’t meant to be interpreted literally. So, now to go about interpreting it . . .

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/266 "2019-03-08T21:49:58Z")

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One…

Even if you cannot believe it beeing inside your bubble…

There are many others that see the need of a change.

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/268 "2019-03-08T21:53:42Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> You seriously believing you’re smarter than me is nothing short of ■■■■■■■ hilarious! 😃

Who says i’m smarter than you?

The answer one is just the truth,even if you do not believe that i’m no sole fighter in my course anymore.

I’m just one voice in the chours 🙂

There are many that finally see the light.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/269 "2019-03-08T21:56:22Z")

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Sure, my boy … whatever you say. _\*pats your head\*_

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/270 "2019-03-08T21:59:43Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Sure, my boy … whatever you say. **pats your head**

Yep…

Must be horrifying to see that the wind is changing,so maybe it’s healthier for you to tell yourself all of those posts are alts of your arc enemy…🙂

Keep believing it 'til the last day if you like…because that’s what it is…a believe…

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/271 "2019-03-08T22:07:57Z")

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I…can’t…stop…laughing…about…your…wrong…usage…of…ellipsis…Balos! I…also…can’t…stop…laughing…about…how…you…think…you…can…fool…anyone…at…all! You…are…so…hilariously…unaware…of…yourself…you…can’t…even…tell…how…we…know…it’s…you!

… 😃

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/272 "2019-03-08T22:11:18Z")

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It’s not just the ellipses…

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/273 "2019-03-08T22:13:41Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> I…can’t…stop…laughing…about…your…wrong…usage…of…ellipsis…Balos! I…also…can’t…stop…laughing…about…how…you…think…you…can…fool…anyone…at…all! You…are…so…hilariously…unaware…of…yourself…you…can’t…even…tell…how…we…know…it’s…you!
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> … 😃

Well…you can deny it as long as you like,the reality will not change.

And with this statement this is over for me.

This is the ONLY char i’m posting with.

We can -if you like- make contact with a dev that will confirm that there is ONE account with no active alt accounts.

But i guess you don’t want to do this because it would confirm your greatest fear…that i’m saying the truth…

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/274 "2019-03-08T22:18:54Z")

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Getting closer? 🙂

> [@Traco\_Miritu](#):
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> But i guess you don’t want to do this because it would confirm your greatest fear…that i’m saying the truth…

Hahaha man you’re so ■■■■■■■ hilarious! You try way too hard coming across as some sort of stoic, brave, strong man, it’s almost as if you can’t seperate life from a ■■■■■■■ video game! 😃

Realitycheck, mate: NO ONE BELIEVES IT! 😃

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/275 "2019-03-08T22:21:05Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> Hahaha man you’re so ■■■■■■■ hilarious! You try way too hard coming across as some sort of stoic, brave, strong man, it’s almost as if you can’t seperate life from a ■■■■■■■ video game! 😃
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> Realitycheck, mate: NO ONE BELIEVES IT! 😃

So no dev confirm for you?

Not even believing the devs?

Well i guessed it that your vendetta is more important for you than the truth…

I’m open to proof my single statement…but you seem not to be willing to be disturbed in your believes of the truth,not even by the reality…

sad…

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/276 "2019-03-08T22:24:13Z")

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One account, 3 characters, and one may always recycle spaces by biomassing.

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/277 "2019-03-08T22:25:21Z")

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One account,one char,no alts…

This is to be proofed by the devs too…an option he denies to draw for obvious reasons…

I can do nothing more than to offer it…

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**Author:** ![mimi45](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mimi45/32/77591_2.png) [@mimi45](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/mimi45)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/278 "2019-03-08T22:26:03Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment.

And no one want that these days, so all that “New player FAQ” is wrong and harmful for CCP

What CCP will do ???

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/279 "2019-03-08T22:26:49Z")

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> [@mimi45](#):
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> And no one want that these days, so all that “New player FAQ” is wrong and harmful for CCP
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> What CCP will do ???

Those who are posting here will NEVER agree to that…this is complete outside of their bubble…

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**Author:** ![Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bjorn_tyrson/32/371958_2.png) [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bjorn_Tyrson)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/280 "2019-03-08T22:30:01Z")

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I’ve seen quite a lot of people here and in other threads claim that “eves development has been too focused on pvp” and that its a problem.

but lets actually take a look at that shall we, what developments have we had in the past few years

PVE:  
moon mining changes  
addition of refineries  
reaction changes  
pirate sotiyo’s  
pirate FOB’s  
abyssal deadspace  
rorqual changes  
introduction of citadels.  
drifters updated to include new boosters  
project discovery updated.  
new npc sites  
resource wars  
new capitals to build  
PI quality of life improvements

pvp  
citadels to fight over  
changes to the sov system  
rebalances to t3d’s and a couple other ships  
some new capitals to use  
triglavin ships (acquired through pve)  
pvp abyssals.

seems to me like for the past 3 years at least the development has been leaning quite heavily towards the pve side of things, with pretty much everything on the pvp side of things being either balance passes, or stuff that was tied to pve as well.

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/281 "2019-03-08T22:36:56Z")

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> [@Bjorn\_Tyrson](#):
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> seems to me like for the past 3 years at least the development has been leaning quite heavily towards the pve side of things, with pretty much everything on the pvp side of things being either balance passes, or stuff that was tied to pve as well.

Not really…

High end pve like fob’s and abyssal space are no mainstream content and this is the problem…

Nearly all of the pve “content” they created are high end stuff that will NOT attract new players.

And to make it worse those are half baked and not even close to be mainstream content because of the sole FACT they make it even POSSIBLE to be assaulted by the PVP crap at the exit.

Abyssal is,basicly,more of a PVP content than PVE simply out of the fact that you can scan the entrance/exit…

And why?

Because of the whining of the PVP faction that don’t wanted staged PVE.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/282 "2019-03-08T22:37:08Z")

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This is obviously all part of Balos’ plan all along and just a sign that change is coming, but it’s coming slowly, because it needs time!

edit: aw crap, not even close. -.-

> [@Traco\_Miritu](#):
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> bacause

You missed one there. it’s bEcause, not bAcause. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/283 "2019-03-08T22:40:46Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> This is obviously all part of Balos’ plan all along and just a sign that change is coming, but it’s coming slowly, because it needs time!

You are REALLY this stupd are you?

I offered you a PROOF of my words by taking a dev into the boat and you deny the offer because of what?

Because of all devs are lying?  
Or am i a dev and we plotted this to prepare all for the coming changes Pearl Abyss will introduce?

Sry but this really does not sound healthy.

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/284 "2019-03-08T22:42:08Z")

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> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#):
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> You missed one there. it’s bEcause, not bAcause. 🙂

You have no options left than to highlight a typo?

Well…i don’t talk for all others but to me this shows desperation…

Why not saying anything about my offer?

Too dangerous for your look on the reality?

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/285 "2019-03-08T22:43:46Z")

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> [@Traco\_Miritu](#):
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> PROOF

That word. It doesn’t actually mean what you think it means? 😊

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