# How to get more people to play eve

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** community\
**Created:** [March 5, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040 "2019-03-05T09:00:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/772 "2019-04-12T20:03:27Z")

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> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#):
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> Theres just no realistic way I’ll be able to play this game without treating it like a boring second job I have to pay for half the time.
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> Not worth it.
> 
> Bye.

Stuff!! I want!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zachri](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zachri/32/69948_2.png) [@Zachri](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zachri)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/774 "2019-04-12T20:31:45Z")

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Seriously, still nobody doing the right thing and making babies? Maybe CCP should write a devblog or help article on it.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/775 "2019-04-12T23:08:02Z")

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> [@Erik\_Aihaken](#):
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> Theres just no realistic way I’ll be able to play this game without treating it like a boring second job I have to pay for half the time.

You cannot have a real economy without things taking effort and time.

We tried so many times to explain this.

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**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/776 "2019-04-12T23:10:52Z")

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> [@Kilon\_Alios](#):
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> Easy to make EVE easy. CCP should release an official manual and improve beginner tutorials.

There you go!

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/7/97b042fd5c3f79f85f9c1490c71298ac0afe43d8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2019, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/777 "2019-04-12T23:25:35Z")

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What you want is “World of Spaceships”  
Or “Space of Spaceships”  
Work with me here

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**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/778 "2019-04-13T00:45:27Z")

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> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#):
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> What you want is “World of Spaceships”  
> Or “Space of Spaceships”  
> Work with me here

Ships with Tanks! In Spaaaaaace!

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/779 "2019-04-13T01:00:35Z")

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love the meme 😃

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/780 "2019-04-13T01:16:48Z")

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Everywhere in eve is the possiblity for pvp and though you should be able to avoid it for small scale stuff i really dont think afk mining in orcas should be part of that.

Or any large scale operations for that matter, certainly not where a group is concerned.

In regards to wardecks i think they have failed so completely im starting to wonder whos ass they are pulling these ‘fixes’ from.

Relegating wardecs to structure bashes? now we have issues with people mining on athanors that arent theirs or mining large scale in corps; people ninja salvaging, allsorts - some of which ws stupidly possible before.  
In highsec there should be regulations for operating in an empire (npc) corp - those regulations coming directly from the ‘leaders’  
In highsec a newb corp should be able to dec a newb corp… without needing to drop a 600 million isk structure that they will need 6 or so well trained battleships to kill the opposing corps… thats easily doable by simply making it more skillpoint orientated and limiting the amount of decs that can be placed onto a corp.  
There are, as always, a ton of workarounds that should be employed but for some reason were stuck with fixes that make really no actual sense and dont really add any dynamic to the game.

Why in hell can we not wardeck a 500 man corp? that literally makes no sense.  
And yeh sure i could create a two day old toon and run around newbies but the comparitive sp still gives them a fighting chance to actually have fun and learn something rather than the usual proteus, cynabl etc etc.

Also not a fan of neutral rr being made criminal offence, should have just made a bigger sec hit for each offence.

And interceptors being made non nullified… basically brought up by the people who want to hotdrop everything with the idea that there are not enough counters…  
I mean these are people that gatecamp or hotdrop frigates with titans, never fly interceptors unless theres a fleet of 100’s. or its travel fit… why in the f##@@&_^_&g hell would you take their opinion onboard???

Amazing workmanship isnt it just.

/me grumbles into his cup of tea

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**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/781 "2019-04-13T03:39:02Z")

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But the tanks have sh… wut?

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/782 "2019-04-13T04:24:44Z")

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> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#):
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> To put in it extremely simple terms for you, what relevance does your question have to the discussion?

You said YOU were ganked in a rookie system and reported the culprit and complained he wasn’t banned or anything. I asked whethet you were a new player at the time of a veteran player at the time of the gank. This is important because if you were a new pleyer the ganking was against EvE rules. If however, as I suspect, uou were not a newbie but a veteran hiding in a rookie system from other players the kill would be legit.

Now again, for the third time, were you a new player in the rookie system when ganbked or were you a veteran? This is important. It will; show you either have a point and I agree the ganker should be “punished” or you a whiiney little ■■■■■.

EDIT: you accused me of defending the use of bot farms in these forums. As of yet you haven’t shown where I have. It is safe to conclude you only post bull ■■■■, isn’t it.

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**Author:** ![Freedom\_Chow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/freedom_chow/32/373958_2.png) [@Freedom\_Chow](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Freedom_Chow)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/783 "2019-04-13T05:39:57Z")

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I think EVE doesn’t need much change at present, but to expend the EVE universe. Dust 514 and Valkyrie once to be great ideas if they can be ‘linked’ to EVE universe, not just another individual flying or FPS game. Unfortunately, these great ideas didn’t present as they supposed to be, but just became two games that totally nothing matters with EVE (as Dust 514 closed).

My point is, pick up the ideas once to be, expend the EVE universe, enrich people’s experiences in EVE. Deeply linking with two or more games to expend EVE universe is great idea, hope CCP will at least discuss it.

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/784 "2019-04-13T06:35:59Z")

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you seem to be brought to us by the letters d i c and k  
and the words self assured  
and moron

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/785 "2019-04-13T06:39:29Z")

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> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> I asked whethet you were a new player at the time of a veteran player

i like how you attempt to make it look like this is what you originally asked when the question was really phrased in a more of a ‘‘are you an idiot or what’’ type of way…  
in fact almost everything you say is basically a direct or veiled insult, you literally have nothing productive to say.

> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> or just a carebear coward hiding

> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> you a whiiney little ■■■■■.

> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#):
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> Were you just a coward

even in most of your other replies…

> [@Please fix toolbar on left side of screen](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-fix-toolbar-on-left-side-of-screen/152200/22):
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> If you are so stupid not understanding

i think you should take some of your own advice you seem to post quite a lot and

> [@Skill injector diminishing returns + old characters](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/skill-injector-diminishing-returns-old-characters/150356/22):
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> go away.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/786 "2019-04-13T08:06:58Z")

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> [@Maekchu](#):
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> I totally agree, that citadel spamming in higsec should be much harder.

Except that citadels are now absent in many systems in hisec as people have been blowing them up. At this point it is pretty easy to kill structures and it is only a lack of effort by players who instead call for CCP to nerf them further when they are already too easy to blow up.

You at not the only one who comes out with this citadels in hisec comment, but you are all wrong. People who cannot defend their structures are losing them and players blowing up stuff is what the game play is. Look at Aaaarg who used to blap pods and shuttles, he is now running around with his fleet of Leshaks removing structures.

It is happening, you are just not paying attention to it.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/787 "2019-04-13T08:19:20Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> are now absent in many systems in hisec

LOL…As a station basher myself, I can assure you that there are a metric buttload of stations in HS…most totally unguarded and unfueled. But I guess that’s my fault. Oh BTW, CCP made it harder, not easier recently to bash so…

Good for Aaaarg…it’s easy ISK.

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**Author:** ![Elias\_enDiabel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elias_endiabel/32/505359_2.png) [@Elias\_enDiabel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elias_enDiabel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/788 "2019-04-13T08:59:56Z")

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your one of very few people that like shooting structures.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/789 "2019-04-13T09:02:48Z")

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It’s bloody easy ISK…sadly I move and now am sleeping during 1800 server time when most stations are vulnerable.

I think I made about 7-8B for the loss of 500M…

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**Author:** ![Elias\_enDiabel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elias_endiabel/32/505359_2.png) [@Elias\_enDiabel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elias_enDiabel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/790 "2019-04-13T09:03:51Z")

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i can make more than that running level 4 missions in nullsec casually tbh.  
with no losses.  
and in less time.  
mostly in a pvp fit enyo…

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/791 "2019-04-13T09:06:14Z")

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Well that’s null after all…apples/oranges.

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**Author:** ![Elias\_enDiabel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elias_endiabel/32/505359_2.png) [@Elias\_enDiabel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elias_enDiabel)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2019, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/792 "2019-04-13T09:10:54Z")

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sorry, clarity isnt my strong point;  
point is moving wardecs to structure only is crap.  
😛

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