# How to get more people to play eve **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** community\ **Created:** [March 5, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040 "2019-03-05T09:00:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/141 "2019-03-06T21:35:03Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > This is something that can be changed on the blink of an eye. And most players would walk away. This is exactly what EVE is known for…Carebear. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/142 "2019-03-06T21:35:19Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > Please look at the above answer Yeah, it’s stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/143 "2019-03-06T21:35:50Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > And most players would walk away. This is exactly what EVE is known for…Carebear. And double of them would join just BECAUSE they are now able to roam freely. ---
**Author:** ![Dragos\_Highwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragos_highwind/32/170517_2.png) [@Dragos\_Highwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragos_Highwind)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/144 "2019-03-06T21:36:06Z")
While I hate the “doesn’t play Eve then” mentality in discussions… I have to agree here. You are playing a game that is 100% open PvP. That’s like logging into counterstrike and saying you don’t like to shoot people and why should being be forced to be shot at. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/145 "2019-03-06T21:36:29Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > Yeah, it’s stupid. It’s right to the core. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/146 "2019-03-06T21:36:58Z")
> **[EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf)** Read and learn… > The essential core concept of EVE Online is that it is full time PvP in a sandbox environment. As has been mentioned in previous sections any player can engage another player at any time in any place. In high-sec space there may be consequences if a pilot attacks another without just cause, but they can still make that attack if they wish. In low-sec and null-sec, there are no limitations to PvP at all. Some of the wide variety of PvP styles are described in more detail below. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/147 "2019-03-06T21:37:03Z")
> [@Dragos\_Highwind](#): > > While I hate the “doesn’t play Eve then” mentality in discussions… I have to agree here. You are playing a game that is 100% open PvP. That’s like logging into counterstrike and saying to doing like to shoot people and why should being be forced to be shot at. Again…the blink of an eye to change that ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/148 "2019-03-06T21:37:30Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > It’s right to the core. No, it isn’t. It is not what this game is fundamentally about. EVE Online is, at it’s core, a PvP game. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/149 "2019-03-06T21:37:34Z")
@Teckos_Pech This does not matter… ---
**Author:** ![Dragos\_Highwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragos_highwind/32/170517_2.png) [@Dragos\_Highwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragos_Highwind)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/150 "2019-03-06T21:38:09Z")
How? The entire game is based around it. Removing non-consensual PvP would break like 3/4ths of the game. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/151 "2019-03-06T21:38:29Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > No, it isn’t. It is not what this game is fundamentally about. EVE Online is, at it’s core, a PvP game. You don’t get it do you? There is no f’ing right that you can draw that it stays this way. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/153 "2019-03-06T21:39:56Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > You don’t get it do you? > > There is no f’ing right that you can draw that it stays this way. On this you are correct. But I and probably most of the current players would get up and leave. We are here for the PvP and the challenges they pose. We are not here to run through instances. If we wanted that we’d be playing WoW or other games. ---
**Author:** ![3lla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/3lla/32/121536_2.png) [@3lla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/3lla)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/154 "2019-03-06T21:40:44Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > Sry but this is BS. > > Who pays and wants no pvp has the same dam right to do it as others have… Who pays and wants pvp has the same damn right to do it as others have … ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/155 "2019-03-06T21:43:44Z")
> [@Dragos\_Highwind](#): > > How? The entire game is based around it. Removing non-consensual PvP would break like 3/4ths of the game. How? Easy. Ban all not agreed (by both sides) pvp actions(duel feature) at least in high. All who attack anyway get a first warning,second rule break leads to 1 week ban and 3rd to perm ban. It simply is no outrageous demand of the so called “carebears” to have a safe haven. PVP has been favored for over a decade now and look where we are,players are leaving anyway and your solution really is “carry on as it is”? Even you must admit that this is stupid and may it just because of the proof this try already sparked. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/156 "2019-03-06T21:44:49Z")
> [@3lla](#): > > Who pays and wants pvp has the same damn right to do it as others have … Turning this around is not valid because pvp has been favored in this game for decades now. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/157 "2019-03-06T21:45:18Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > safe haven You are completely free of all PvP in hisec, every little bit of it; on the test server. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/158 "2019-03-06T21:46:29Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You are completely free of all PvP in hisec, every little bit of it; on the test server. Very funny. No arguments left? ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/159 "2019-03-06T21:49:03Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > Ban all not agreed (by both sides) pvp actions(duel feature) at least in high. So prices of various in game items fall like a rock. > [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > All who attack anyway get a first warning,second rule break leads to 1 week ban and 3rd to perm ban. All the PvP players leave. > [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > It simply is no outrageous demand of the so called “carebears” to have a safe haven. You do know that the in game economy relies critically on destruction and not just destruction from rats, right? Of course you don’t. > [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > PVP has been favored for over a decade now and look where we are,players are leaving anyway and your solution really is “carry on as it is”? The player population is rather stable at the time being…and how do you explain the early years of growth? Whatever is going on with the player population is unlikely to be related to just PvP. > [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > Even you must admit that this is stupid and may it just because of the proof this try already sparked. The only stupid I see is contained in your posts. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/160 "2019-03-06T21:49:10Z")
> [@Traco\_Miritu](#): > > pvp has been favored in this game for decades now. Could that possibly be because it’s a PvP game? Counterstrike has also favoured PvP since the beginning, because it’s also a PvP game. > Very funny. > No arguments left? You wanted a safe haven? I just gave you one. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/161 "2019-03-06T21:49:44Z")
No he is right. Go play on the Test Server, seems to be the environment you want, one where you do not engage with other players. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040.md?page=7) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040.md?page=9)