# How to get more people to play eve

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** community\
**Created:** [March 5, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040 "2019-03-05T09:00:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/162 "2019-03-06T21:50:54Z")

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Shame we don’t have a test forum to get him banished to.

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**Author:** ![Dragos\_Highwind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dragos_highwind/32/170517_2.png) [@Dragos\_Highwind](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dragos_Highwind)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/163 "2019-03-06T21:50:58Z")

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Either this is the greatest troll ever or your really are playing the wrong game…

The game is a PvP game. The economy is based off the destruction and replacement of player used components. if no miners or cargo frieghters get destroyed there is no demand for their product. All materials that can be gathered in the “safe” areas would become worthless from over abundance.

Asking to not be shot without consent at in a PvP game it’s pretty counter intutive. I could see if the game was only PvE for a while then added PvP, but PvP has always been pure PvP and is arguably 10x safer than launch.

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/164 "2019-03-06T21:51:45Z")

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> [@Dragos\_Highwind](#):
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> Either this is the greatest troll ever or your really are playing the wrong game…

Who is that guy who’s popped up under different names and raises a ruckus posting nonsense…?

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/165 "2019-03-06T21:51:58Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> Counterstrike has also favoured PvP since the beginning, because it’s also a PvP game.

But we want CS servers where we only can shoot chickens… That sounds like fun.

You just don’t understand Jonah… PvP is soooooooo 2003.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/166 "2019-03-06T21:52:31Z")

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> [@Dragos\_Highwind](#):
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> Either this is the greatest troll ever or your really are playing the wrong game…

No, he seems to be totally serious and even believes that Pearl Abyss will force changes on CCP.

And because he is back, this thread is doomed!

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/167 "2019-03-06T21:53:38Z")

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/168 "2019-03-06T21:53:45Z")

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> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#):
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> And because he is back, this thread is doomed!

Is this the “Pearl Abyss Is Going To Do What I Want” guy? I keep getting my trolls mixed up.

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/169 "2019-03-06T21:53:54Z")

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> [@Teckos\_Pech](#):
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> > Ban all not agreed (by both sides) pvp actions(duel feature) at least in high.
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> So prices of various in game items fall like a rock.
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> > All who attack anyway get a first warning,second rule break leads to 1 week ban and 3rd to perm ban.
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> All the PvP players leave.
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> > It simply is no outrageous demand of the so called “carebears” to have a safe haven.
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> You do know that the in game economy relies critically on destruction and not just destruction from rats, right? Of course you don’t.
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> > PVP has been favored for over a decade now and look where we are,players are leaving anyway and your solution really is “carry on as it is”?
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> The player population is rather stable at the time being…and how do you explain the early years of growth? Whatever is going on with the player population is unlikely to be related to just PvP.
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> > Even you must admit that this is stupid and may it just because of the proof this try already sparked.
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> The only stupid I see is contained in your posts.

Nice brainwasded crap your posting.

Did you learn it all by yourself or did you have to read it?

The game will not die with less pvp,it will be another game,but a better one.

Armageddon is not near if changes are coming…

The market will adjust and all your dark talk will dissolve into thin air.

And from 40k to 20 k,let’s say 25k is “stable” in your eyes?

WOW

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/170 "2019-03-06T21:55:16Z")

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I’m pretty sure this is Balos, yes…

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**Author:** ![Jian\_Mira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jian_mira/32/509519_2.png) [@Jian\_Mira](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jian_Mira)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/171 "2019-03-06T21:55:21Z")

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CCP need to create a new content instead of just fixing existing problems. There needs to be a new direction something different.

A couple of ideas -

1. Create some new startbases which are much closer to the planets, obviously they would need a new name like Skydocks, they could also create new missions on the these planets.

2. New Enemy or update and existing Alien, where have the Sleepers gone?

3. New Ship Design competition, yes it has be done before but this time it could be fleet of ships rather than just 1 design.

4. Update the player Avatar, make it more realistic with a more selection of clothes. yes i know that you are not going to bring back WIS but this part of EVE has not been updated for a very long time (have a look how Sims 4 looks). I think users would buy the clothes if you create more variety of different looks and styles.

5. There really needs to be more mystery in space, forgotten aliens, strange objects, hidden mysterious.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/172 "2019-03-06T21:55:38Z")

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'Tis Balos TrippingOnPoo as far as I can tell, his script is nearly as bad as Ridiculous Clod’s

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/173 "2019-03-06T21:56:03Z")

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> [@Maekchu](#):
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> I’m pretty sure this is Balos, yes…

No it’s not…it’s a different “carebear” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/174 "2019-03-06T21:56:55Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> 'Tis Balos TrippingOnPoo as far as I can tell, his script is nearly as bad as Ridiculous Clod’s

So no argument left so we criticize the writing style?

This is low as low can be.

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**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/175 "2019-03-06T21:57:20Z")

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They are multiplying… Oh the horror!

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**Author:** ![3lla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/3lla/32/121536_2.png) [@3lla](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/3lla)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/176 "2019-03-06T21:58:04Z")

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> [@Traco\_Miritu](#):
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> Turning this around is not valid because pvp has been favored in this game for decades now.

You forcing control on others who want to pvp in hishec, is neither a solution.

It’s a pure design choice, based on no evidence other than the hot air blowing out your ass.

You think a direct correlation exists between the people leaving the game “en masse” and hisec pvp, and believe this will kill the game.

Thing is people have left the game and suffered such loss, some percentage don’t come back, and some do.

Those that do come back, realize that without forced pvp and non consensual asset destruction (be it in high sec or anywhere else), the game just wouldn’t be, the economy would stagnate, people would overinflate supply, and sheer boredom, would just kill the game.

There are simply less people now because the attraction to the mmo market as a whole, has simply aged, and one could say Eve is still doing very well compared to others.

But I’ll be damned before we see this game turn into a safespace kitty haven.

And you’ll still be here pushing your dumb ideas for the game, all alone, against the entire community…

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/177 "2019-03-06T21:58:07Z")

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17 posts in the hour that you’ve been a forum member, and all of them bad.

Which alt got banned this time?

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**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/178 "2019-03-06T21:58:55Z")

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> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#):
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> 17 posts in the hour that you’ve been a forum member, and all of them bad.
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> Which alt got banned this time?

Yours talking BS maybe?

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**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/179 "2019-03-06T22:00:13Z")

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> [@Traco\_Miritu](#):
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> No it’s not…it’s a different “carebear” 🙂

Confirmed it’s him.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/180 "2019-03-06T22:03:35Z")

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Which bit?

All of your posts being bad?  
Your forum membership starting in the last hour or so (public record BTW)  
Or one of your shitposting alts getting banned?

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-more-people-to-play-eve/144040/181 "2019-03-06T22:05:19Z")

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He fails to understand how distinctive his writing style is, and how easily others recognise it.

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